Thanks, sloot. Yes, I think you summed it up very well.

Despite my lengthy post earlier, I didn't mention what happened on my following visit the next night.

So, I went back to Tawan (I decided one "good" run deserves another, but I didn't want to push my luck either) after dinner the following night, with the intention to chat with #11 again, but only catch the 10:30PM show before calling it a night.

So, when I entered the door, the usual happened: ordered a beer, and sat down at a strategic location to look at the athletes. #11 saw me and smiled at me again, and came by to shake my hand and say hello when his turn on the stage expired. Naturally, I asked him to sit next to me and we chatted. Again, we had good chemistry. Its another rainy day, I sat close to him, and he let me place my palm on his huge thighs. After chatting a while, I commented to him that I kinda like #8 (who was the lead actor in a sexy dance later, in leather and chains - no sex) had nice broad shoulders and big calves. Before I could stop him, #11 motioned #8 to sit next to me on the other side (okay, they're friends). What gives?

So, then I had #11 on the left and #8 on the right. I couldn't believe my luck (2 studs so close). Apparently, they're strangely okay with that, though it seems they would be competing for my "off". Strange, but wonderful things happen here. #8 had a slightly better command of English, and relatively more friendly at first impression. After a while, the topic of conversation went to if I would off them or both. I replied matter-of-factly that I just wanted to watch the show and go back to rest as I was departing early the next day. Both of them did sort of try to coax me into it, and asked why not? It felt really nice - 2 studs chasing me at the same time... After a while, they sort of realised I wasn't going to change my mind, and was slightly disappointed but yet okay with it. #8 then started massaging my thighs and said, maybe next time. He did mention that he was a top, and doesn't mind being smoked, as long as it was safe sex. That's a plus in my books. My gaydar did sense that he had some slightly softer mannerisms than #8 in the way he leaned his head on my shoulders (but in no way effeminate) and put on thigh on top of mine. I took a mental note next time to off him. Like #11, #8 just my type - macho, but accepting.

Anyway, then #8 went upstairs to prepare the show. #11 said he usually did the opening muscleshow, but as he was gaining mass before dieting in November, he is not in form for showing that night. I just sat there, next to him, remember how warm he was the previous night. I remembered feeling contented and lucky. On stage, #8 did quite a nice dance, with 4 guys surrounding him, as he sat on stage wearing nothing with chains and a leather mask, and leather belt on the ankles and wrist (as did the others). He spotted a very nice hardon (read: 7-8 inches). I made another mental note to off him next time. The other 4 boys, paired off and danced around the stage and taking turns to suck each other's dicks off. But #8 just danced, acting indifferent, and rejecting their advances when the pairs went near him. I sorta felt bad that I rejected him earlier (even though I know its a show). Its quite a turnon for me.

After the dancing show, there was a parade of studs (not so muscled but some were bodybuilders) either stark naked, or in kinky get-ups (like a huge bell tied to a well-sized well-veined tool of one of the chaps in the fucking show). (Apparently, its called the big-cock show) Duh! To the beat of modelling music even. I got some transvestites show the previous times I went there. Again, strange and good things happen here. Ha Ha...

Anyway, #8 came back after he finished and continued talking to me (#11 went to drink/eat something upstairs) before #11 joined me again. Around midnight, I decide to call it a night and tipped them both 200THB and left. They appreciated it, and #11 gave me a slight wink to come back soon.

All in all, it just felt nice and I was happy. I know its probably not what others may go for, but like sloot, I guess you need to "go with the flow" and enjoy what you have and mutual respect.

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I think you figured it out later: they wanted you to off them both. Then, they each would have had to do only half a job at getting you off, while each getting full tips. Score!

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I wrote on a gay forum a couple of years ago that my idea of heaven would be the boys at Tawan in a venue like Hero.

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Yes, I guess it _could_ have been on their minds.

But, for me, having not one, but TWO bodybuilders would have been a fantasy that exceeded anything that I've ever dreamed of. I've just started discovering this City of Angels. Yes, I know - Its only a matter of time some reality sets in, but its all about one's perspective...and its more challenging to view the positive side of people. So, I would have been more than happy to pay them 2000 THB each even if it was just a short hour...to live my wildest fantasy.

BTW, I didn't off either of them after the show, although the thought was very very exciting. But that was a bit too "dangerous" for me. I'm not a bottom, and having 2 of them in the same room, gods knows what may happen next. I may get more than I can handle. and end up like a victim in some crazy Japanese porn. Who knows? Maybe I'd overpower them and ... and...

Anyways...I do sense they're good guys, and just need to make a living. So, I think I'd try that once in my lifetime, but not now. No better place than Tawan I guess...

(Or, maybe... I'm another fool in the making. Ha! Lets see...)

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My very last time at Tawan, I offed three at the same time from that bar. It was in the vain hope that I might concievably end up with at least one that wasn't a dud. Believe me, the fantasy was better by miles.

It was great having three bodybuilders in my room and all of us naked but that was as far as it went. All three seemed reluctant to go all the way and were in a hurry to get me to blow my rocks so that they could go back to the bar. Not one seemed willing to blow off his rocks and in the end, I had to write it off to experience and find better places to spend my hard-earned cash.

Sorry if I seem terribly negative about Tawan. From what you have been experiencing there, it seems like some things have changed for the better and I hope others who go there will have equally enjoyable times like you.

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Hi, my friend who is an old hand at Tawan (in fact it was he who introduced me to Tawan but he doesn't like to post in the forums) wanted to pass the following recommendations.

Arthur (a thai-afro-american hyrid), and #8 will be willing to be top, and one of the seasoned guys (called Sayan) may be open to being a bottom and rimming with the right tip, though he may ask a bit on the high side and sometimes show some attitude if he thinks you're rough.

Disclaimer: I haven't tried myself and can't vouch for his recommendations. As usual, pls practice safe sex, and treat them with common courtesy and respect.

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Thanks for the tip, Like_Thai.

Unfortunately, my financial situation being what it is at the moment, I can only hope that some other members of this board who can afford it, off these two gentlemen and see if it was worth it.

Regarding your parting admonition, I assure you that I have never failed to treat even my worst enemies with respect and consideration, let alone anyone whom I am hoping might give me a good time.

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I've taken guys from Tawan back to my room several times and was never disappointed by what they would or wouldn't do. Of course, I never had high expectations like wanting them to kiss or fall in love with me, but I've always been satisfied when they left. For me the big problem I had was taking guys home who seemed to have had fat injected into their dicks which made them really grotesque looking. I'd rather have a guy with a small dick than a deformed one. I don't know if this is still a problem, but since a few bad experiences I have not gone back to Tawan.

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This phenomenon is not confined to Tawan boys, nor even to Bangkok bar boys only. I've seen it in a guy from a Chiang mai bar and another in Pattaya.

Since I'm not a bottom, it doesn't matter to me what size the guy's dick is. Small ones can be cute. But no silicone dicks for me too!

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Well... I can tell you first hand (pun intended) that those I've tried, the dicks are very real and can be very hard.

In any case, you can either inspect the goods when you oogle at them during the "big cock show", or during the "cum" show. I haven't seen a malformed one yet... save for an over-zealous masseur in one of the massage places at Silom.

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-- But how many of them owe their size to Vacuum Pumps, to C*ck-rings and to other such artificial aids?
- Quite sometime ago I admired a particularly well-endowed young man from FRESH BEACH BOYS, (Soi Twilight: off Tnn. Suriwong.), - Khun Roj., #4. - B-I-G on stage during the various acts, but once back in my appt. it was only a little but bigger than the avg. Thai boi - what a disappointment.
- Again, and quite a while back, chatting with a farang friend who's professional job, from wch. he made his legit. living, took him IN and OUT of various a go-go bars confirmed that the use of Vac. Pumps was not unknown to the performers etc.
-- Bibi.. --

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Now that you mentioned it, it might solve the mystery why in my previous post, boy X had an initial respectable 6-inch erection when we started, but towards the end it ballooned to 8 inches. I can assure you, it was rock hard all the way.

Maybe the use of the vacuum pump does increase the length and girth, but you need to take some time to bring it from the original erection to the super-sized erection...

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-- Interesting.
- I'd have expected things to have happened the other way around: fresh from the Vac. Pump at eight inches but returning - possibly gradually - to its 6 inch and maybe MORE natural length.
- Possibly someone who has MORE experience of Vac. Pumps and of their effects would enlighten us?
-- Bibi.. --

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Hello,

I guess the tawan boys are in great shape after the bodybuilding contest of this month. I will come in Bangkok in september and Tawan is one of my favourite place. I saw pictures of Chang in contests of Pattaya bars. Do you know if he is working in Tawan ?

Cheers,
Lionel

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I was in Bangkok after the "red-shirt" incident after Songkran, but didn't find the time to post my Tawan visit. Hopefully this update is still current...

Again, I arrived about 10PM and some of the boys were on the stage. There were about 20 customers inside, and all the good seats at the sofas were taken. I was shown to a seat near the door. However, this time before my buttocks could touch the seat, #53 descended upon me! He had just finished his walk on the stage and my seat happened to be near the end.

Anyway, I told him that I missed his sensual tease on the stage, and he immediately smiled and whispered into my ears that he could give a "performance" in my hotel room if I offed him. He twitched my nipples through my shirt and said that he hadn't had a customer in 10 days and was dying to "cum"... When I told him that I wanted to watch the show first, he said no problem and licked my ears as he went back on the stage.

As he left, #11 came over before I could scan the room further. Hey, my lucky night... last time, he wasn't around... Or are things getting slow in the bar scene these days? #11 had put on back some weight as it was a few months after the competition. I told him I was happy to see him and didn't get to off him last time. But he broke the news that he was going to stop work at Tawan as he didn't get much customers. I couldn't believe him as he was champion last year. He explained that his weight class and size is larger than the other boys, and most of the customers liked smaller guys. The last few weeks, customers were also fewer.... I looked around and more chairs were being added as the "fixed" seats are already full. Most of the boys I see are still around (X was missing), but true, he was probably the biggest in the room, and I asked him how come the situation is bad now. He said that usually, the boys survive on "regular customers", who usually take the boys out for a few days at a time and so happens that his customers have stopped coming for the time being due to the political problems. So, he would go home by end April. I was devasted! So, naturally I told him to "suit up" and his eyes lit up as he left to change. Then, the lights dimmed and the show started.

The first show was new. A group of 5 muscle men on stage - one standing on a cube on stage with a black cloth over his head, while 4 stood around him (2 at the back). 3 lady boys came in as the music started and proceeded to caress the first 3 muscle guys, with the centre guy being slowly "revealed". On my god, this guy had a good body. He was wearing a venetian masquerade or egyptian type of mask, and like the rest wearing just a gold belt with a triangular flap in front. I could see him breathing under the mask, as the lady body caressed his huge thighs and defined abs. Slowly, the 3 ladyboys removed the belt to reveal erect dicks with condoms on.

I was getting excited, as I saw the guy on the platform breathing harder (not sure if due to the mask) but he seemed awkward yet clumsy in a sort of way that suggest that he doesn't do this often. As the lady body sucked on his dick, he raised his hands to grab the iron rings suspended on the top of the stage, and he tried to move in rhythm of the lady boy's head bobbing steadily up and down. I could see the eyes through the mask, but he tilted his head once or twice and that thrush his hard dick forward as the lady boy sucked hard and purposefully. "She" rested his palms on the side of his buttocks to get better grip as though he was trying to make the muscle guy come deliberately even though it was an act. After a short while, the muscle guy in the mask brought down both hands and it seemed like he was trying to grab the ladyboy's hands, seemingly to signal the lady boy to slow down and take it easy. But the lady boy continued to suck strong and steady, and deeper down the shaft. Soon, the muscle guy stopped gyrating and he tensed his buttocks. The lady boy looked up at him, and I saw their hands pushing slightly (you couldn't notice it if you were seating farther from the 3rd row) but I could. Seems like there was a silent war going on. The muscle guy must be new and less experienced, than the regular guy that usually did this. So, I'm guessing he is trying very hard to hold back, and not to come but the lady boy was trying everything to give him an orgasm. That really excited me. I thought I saw the muscle guy tense his thighs and spasm a bit, but I wasn't sure. Alas, the song ended and the lady boy unwillingly removed his mouth. My heart skipped a bit, as for a split second, I thought the tip of the condom was full (as though there was semen) but I wasn't sure because the lights dropped suddenly, and they all exited through the false door on the stage. Maybe it was just empty pocket of air at the tip, but I couldn't tell for sure. Drats! My heart was pounding hard from the suspense, as the next act came.

#53! It must be my lucky day. He was doing a one-on-one with a heavily tatooed guy. Again, he performed well, making me even more horny as he did an oral on the guy on stage and they were clad in leather and chains. But I have to admit somehow, the earlier act where my mind imagined what was happening was more exciting to me, than this one where I could see clearly everything. #53's lips looked really delicious, and I could tell he was good at sucking. Unfortunately, I wanted to off #11 one last time before he stopped working.

The other acts were so-so, and #11 came to sit with me as I watched the masturbating show. I was amazed that they have 10-12 boys on stage doing that now. Time must be hard. There were 2 rounds of ejaculation, and I am sure there could have been more times, except the money ran out. Quite surprising, since the bar was packed by then and more chairs had to added. I guess most customers only wanted to watch.However, I did notice that for the 2 boys who ejaculated, both did project an exquisite amount of semen. They may have not been "active" recently.

When the lights came on, most of the customers left but a few of the boys like #11 were dressed and ready to go out with the customers. As I was waiting for the waiters to give me back my change (charge: drinks 250THB + 400THB off), #53 came by. He was quite "gentlemen" that I offed #11, but he took the chance to tell me his disappointment that I didn't wait for him to finish his show and off him. He sat on my right and whispered that if I offed him too, he was willing to lick me and suck me off too. When I said how good he would be, he whispered that he is willing to lick everywhere - dick, balls and lower down.) He also mentioned that specially for me, he was willing to do it without a condom.

Unfortunately, I didn't want to spend on 2 boys, and I really enjoyed talking to #11, so I said "next time". As I left, he gently hugged me and kissed me on the mouth and tried to use his tongue to gently part my lips too. Oh my god, I bet he could french kiss too.

Anyway, I had a very good time with #11. He is different from #53 and I had a good time listening to him talk about his plans when he got home to the north. I asked for his mobile number so that I could call him next time, in case he was in bangkok.

I have to say, unfortunately for these bar boys, it seems that the tourist is having the advantage in this downturn. I just hope #53 is still around the next visit in June...

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