I really don't understand the lonely guys who look for "love" and then get angry at the "boys". Why don't they look for guys or men! I am not interested in boys who work in bars. I have lived here for over 10 yrs in total and associate with middle and upper class Thais who work and are educated. If their mothers get sick they go to Bangkok General, Bangkok Christian or Bumrungrat Hospital. They take holidays overseas. What is wrong with you guys. I am chubby but have been able to attract real gay guys in BKK. My partner is 7 yrs younger than me. We have been together for 14 yrs and we now live in his room at a 5 star hotel given due to his position. We have both had ups and downs financially and have helped each other out. I drove his car for 7 years. Get real. What the hell do you talk about to a money boy?

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I was going to type "Boys says it all" but that would imply that such lonely souls are all paedophiles, which would not only be unfair but also libellous. I think it's closer to the truth to say that subconsciously they're looking for that teenage love crush they never got to sleep with. Imagine coming to Thailand on holiday and seeing so many young men who look like they could have been that lost-long-ago heartthrob. No wonder so many men come to LOS and fall incurably head over heels with some scheming charmer.

I was there, I did that and now I'm over it. So I understand why they do it the first time. What I don't understand is why they keep doing it over and over again.

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orson
Hi, thank you for your comment.

I don't remember exactly when. But I'm sure that saw Prap in Tawan. It wasn't a show time. He was on the stage and posing. If I'm wrong, sorry.
He is doing so well as a personal trainer now. Has many customers, gets paid a lot comparing standered price for hiring a personal trainer at some gyms. Actually I wanted to hire him before. However, the price was too expensive. And he told me that every customer pay more if they continue to hire him. So I said No nicely. He is nice, but not for me as a personal trainer. He doesn't need a sponsor because he is doing well.

To off the boy outside of the bar. I'd say you can. In my experience, after the bar close, some Tawan boys hang around at Soi twilight. There are some bars still open after 1am. Not gogo bars. I've offed a muscular boy that actually Tawan boy, didn't know that time and he didn't tell me. It was weird that guy is Tawan boy for sure, and also offed next day around 9pm. Tawan bar allows part time job? If they wanna work, can go to the bar anytime? I thought that gogo boys have no holiday except they ask mamasan or being sick with a medical certificate.
The other case, you might get boys at Lumphini Park. Now it has changed? Or still be able to. I'm not sure.
And also if you've offed the guy before, ask him that wanna off outside. If he wants, would see you, not get any customers of his own accord, before the bar open or after close. So you don't have to pay off fee. No matter he has sponsors or not. Or even he actually gets a customer before you. To me, I don't mind. At least the boy is able to do. I've done this way many times.

Xfun, sydneyboy and biggles69
Thanks for sharing your stories. And yes, I think we do know already those boys lies or excuses. Might be true, but most of the time it's a lie. To be honest, I don't understand some customers believe boys story. It's an old trick. I like to communicate with the boy. But if he starts talking about his financial problem, I would change the subject. If he gives an attitude, then bye. I think some gogo boys should be smarter to how to get an attention. Depends on the situation, how long you know the boy or timing. I heard some boys ask new customer for support the day when they are offed. Who believes it?

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I agree, Taoboxer, but you know, these guys are in the flesh market. They are overwhelmingly not well educated. This is the time for them to earn money. They are not looking for true love. Some farangs are dumb, then they complain about how dumb they are.

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-- As the poet wrote: 'Hope springs eternal in the human breast.' - so it may well be with those who've lost-out on Round One, losing the first battle doesn't mean that the war'll be lost; maybe, just maybe, next time ... ? 'If at first you don't succeed ... . ''
- As many a gambler will tell you: 'A Quitter never wins, but a Winner never quits.'.
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Yes there are in reality 2 Thailands. The BKK set (where I have met several nice established Thai gays - regretably never a perfect match for me) and the Isaan Thais who head south in search of fortune and farangs. They are the money boys, many here to feed their families, and there can rarely be a "love match " with them.

My favourite author summed up the pay for sex scene beautifully - (I para-phrase) "where the lonely, desperate, love-sick poor of Isaan meet lonely , desperate love-sick rich of the west. It's a perfect match !)

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Yes there are in reality 2 Thailands. The BKK set (where I have met several nice established Thai gays - regretably never a perfect match for me) and the Isaan Thais who head south in search of fortune and farangs. They are the money boys, many here to feed their families, and there can rarely be a "love match " with them.

My favourite author, John Burdett, summed up the pay for sex scene beautifully - (I para-phrase) "where the lonely, desperate, love-sick poor of Isaan meet lonely , desperate love-sick rich of the west. It's a perfect match !"

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