Well, after all that I'd read here, and a heavy recommendation from two friends, I checked out Chakran last night (where I ran into "Elgar").

I have to say I was disappointed. Nice place, nice food, shame about the clientele. Oh yes, there were lots of gorgeous young Thai guys around, but, as a farang, I might as well have been invisible. Very much a "Thai chorp Thai" sticky rice place, I think. I chatted to another farang over dinner, and he had the same feeling.

I know the Babs is like that sometimes too, but unfortunately first impressions of a place do count. If I get the urge, I might go back to Chakran once more. If its no better for sex than it was last night, it'll be my last trip there!

Well, Dorrers, all I can say is: after I left you in the bar, I went up to the cruising area and had the most fantastic time within minutes of entering the place with a (guestimate) 24 yr old Thai boy who was not at all 'Thai Rak Thai'. And - just in case you're wondering - he came on to me. I hadn't noticed him at first in the gloom.

Just goes to show....

Anyway, how did you know I was me? Am I THAT obvious?

[ April 30, 2001: Message edited by: Elgar ]

Its too bad that some farangs still think that they must be at the center of attractions at places like chakran. Nothing personal, but asians still do like asians too. I think Chakran is wonderful and I had a great time there.

It also always kills me when fat, smelly, old, and/or ugly farangs go to a sauna, don't get any action (no surprise), then complain that the crowd was all "sticky rice".

(I'm not saying that's the case with Dorrers -- I'm just jabbering).

Show me a sauna where young, fit, good-looking farangs don't attract any attention, THEN we'll call it "sticky", OK?

Dorrers, Man you don't know when you are lucky! You are in a fantastic place where you can meet up with great guys like Elgar, cruise around to your hearts content and go to fantastic Sauna's like Chakran and Babylon and get your rocks off for practically nothing. Stop winging and get a life

I'm NOT winging - just making the point that I've had better experiences at Babylon, thats all. There has been a lot of comment on here about how much better Chakran is, and I'm just responding to that.

I have been to Chakran once or twice a week since it opened. I love it. Its relaxing, beautifully appointed, big, friendly, cosy, intimate - we are so lucky to have it (along with the other saunas of course)
I have had a wonderful time on every occasion - not a hint of 'Thai Rak Thai'.
Sorry, Dorrers - I also have to disagree with you

Hey, leave poor Dorrers alone!
The fact is Quasimodo could go to Babylon and get laid a dozen times, so I know what he's trying to tell us. I've found that in other saunas outside of Babylon the going is much tougher for those of us who don't look like Brad Pitt (and how many of you guys slinging shit at Dorrers do??)
So why not increase the chances of scoring and meeting one (or 15!) very nice guy who happens to appreciate your unique qualities.
Babylon has the MOST potato queens, bar none.
Thank god....

right on looby! You'll do for me.

I found my one visit to Chakran to be quite good. It was a Friday night, so the crowd was good. But there were lots, and I mean lots, of decent looking guys who were more than ready for some fun.

As luck would have it, I got a skinny, smooth boy and a nice, totally fit, Issan guy who had one hell of a cock. And the place was filling up the whole time.

I think for sheer numbers, the place is as good as you're going to get in Bangkok. And as I've said before, the layout is great, not to mention the 'lay.'

FIY, I'm 5'10' and 190 lbs, so I'm probably not the first guy that the Thais run to. Then again, sometimes I am. I think it's my charm, good looks (despite 4 chins!) and my radiating personality that just wins guys (and the girls) over!

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well I must admit theat chakran is packed almost everyday, and for most of you who remeber me, i was complaining that it was too close to comfort..i live like 1 min away from the place..there are men walking in and ot all the time..so many cars are parked outside the place and the soi...but i was just answering something to cupidman..since i live near there cupidman you decided to call me, and we never had the chance to meet and maybe get together...I have had alot good sessions with other guys 3-4 hrs and was wondering if there are giys her einterested...but i am ostly into GWM (23-43) as for me

i am thai 26yrs 5'9" (176cm) 66kg goodlooking and hairy (yes a hairy asian) mostly bottom and loves to suck....actually i have some hot stories to tell but it would take some time to write it

take care, hopr to hear from yuo cupidman

After reading about how wonderful Chakarn is, and how disastrous Babs was (I hadn't been to either), I was keen to try out Chakarn this week--last night, in fact. BUT--it was pouring rain yesterday around 5 pm, and I was already in Sathorn Road, so I decided lazily to head over to Babylon, despite all of the talk on this board that it had been "ruined". I was ready for some disappointment, but I was also ready for someplace dry, and thought at least I'd be able to get me some farang dick if nothing else.

Well, what a surprise! I have to say that, risking losing your respect (which is of course important, since I have no self-respect!), I think the new Babylon is BETTER than the old one! I know, I know....there just aren't the old nooks and crannies, and it feels more like a resort than a sex club. But on a rainy Wednesday, it was truly amazing for this white boy. I am not Brad Pitt, either-- 182 cm, 77 kg, 32 y.o.
But the best thing of all was that there didn't seem to be much competition in the farang department! Maybe they're all over at Chakarn?
I hooked up with three very hot boys in four hours, and it could have been many more--but I needed some dinner and a rest in between. I first met a tight, muscular 23-year-old, short, but with a *very* hard 6-inch dick in the jacuzzi. We headed upstairs to a room. He mouth-fucked me, and then did the same thing in my ass, all culminating in a joyous result.
Next was a slim, yet defined, 26-year-old, also insatiable. He fucked me twice in about an hour. I met him just outside the steam room. I remember hearing about hot enough private cabins at Babylon. No problems finding an open one last night, and there was a decent-sized crowd.
Finally there was a gorgeous, dark-skinned, tall, defined boy from the south of Thailand......fat, 7-inch dick. Lots of fun, great kisser too. Do they just know I'm bottom when they see me?? Must just be dumb luck.
Not one of these three boys had heard of Chakarn, and none of them seemed interested in learning more about the new place. I just wanted to let you know that Babs is not totally dead--even though there's new competition on the block. In fact, the existence of Chakarn might actually make Babs better, since it seems to be offering some promotions. Last night was "swim nude" night, though not many were taking up the dangerous offer with lightning in the sky. yikes.

Now, how can I compare the two places unless I personally go to Chakarn tonight (or Friday) and check it out for myself?? As a service to you boys, I will do just that.
I'll let you know the findings of my investigative report as soon as possible.

Oh yeah--met a VERY big 26-year-old from the USA at Times Square on a quiet Tuesday afternoon.....his dick almost didn't fit through the hole! It was about 8 inches, and I had a hard time getting my fist around it. We retreated to the Sheraton since the bathroom was busy with cleaning ladies, and found a toilet just outside the pool on the 3rd floor.....it was warm (since it was outside) yet fun. Thanks for the tips, guys.

I agree with bottom boy Beijingman32: the new Babylon is much better than the old one, and really a wonderful heaven for gay men. It gets better after around 8pm or so when the Sound Factory opens...the music, smoke, half naked bodies (some nights only underwear) and many horny boys and men. Lots of dark areas and lots of private cabins. I was there twice over the last 2 weeks, every time asked several cuties if they have been to Chakran...and found very few who have been there, or even heard about it. Those who have been there agree that it is not as active as Babylon. Anyhow, good to have competition for Babs

I was there today! Man the place was DEAD!!!! I left after an hour. Some queen was trying it's best to suck me off but kept gagging! I mean what a waste of time. Back to Babylon for me.

Well I was there on Sunday evening and had a wonderful time and I am certainly not the first gwm that Thais will look at. I had to run to a dinner which was a pity as I could have had another one. Maybe it was the day for more mature gwm.