Yesterday visited '69', in Sukhumvit 13.

Took forever for the staff to realize they had a customer who was waiting to have some attention. Only 3 boys, but one looked quite my style, I indicated i wanted cream massage for 1 hour. Captain and massage boy nodded they understood and made no further comment.

Massage was extremely strong and i had to tell the boy jep again and again. Also indicated that I didn't want him to touch my lower back on one side where I have a long-term problem, told him several times amidst his claim that he knew how to fix my problem.

Boy was very masculine, beautiful upper chest and obviously 100% gay. He started to bite my nipples heavily, again had to tell him to stop, then he tried several times to give me love bites on my neck, which I had to fight off. Then he said he didn't understand what was wrong "because all farang like heavy". I ended the session and showered, gave the boy 1,000Baht and was thinking I was giving too much. Then he claimed angrily his tip was 3,500Baht. Against my better judgement I gave him 500 more, to get out of the room.

Back at the reception I got the next shock, a bill for 1,800Baht. I objected and was told with lots of big smiles from all the staff now gathered around that they charge by 'set', which is 1,800, regardless of what service(s) the customer has.

I tried to argue but it was clear they were not going to budge from 1,800 which i paid, and of course as I left the building I got "see you tomorrow".

Definitely off my list.

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Was the "set" price supposed to include the tip? I recently went to K-Why as I had seen a guy entering at the start of his shift, who I liked. The next day, I went in with just Bht1,500 in my possession and asked for the boy I had seen the night before...he was recognized as the boy with the black T-shirt with Playboy written in the front. He was available and I asked him for one hour massage. The staff then asked me for Bht1,500 upfront, that supposedly included tip.
I enjoyed the boy very much...he is from Si Thammarat, 18 and conscientious and happy. When we had finished the massage and sex, he suggested very politely that I may like to tip him a little. I told him I was very sorry but I had paid out everything I had at the front desk but would give him a little extra on my next visit. He waid me very politely, said OK and thanked me for coming and gave me a kiss and a fumble. Next day I dropped in and gave him Bht500, a kiss and a fumble.
My farang friend who accompanied me, engaged a bottom for his massage and said it was the best experience he has every had in many years of having sex in Thailand....and gave his boy an additional Bht1,000.....and here's me thinking K-Why was a dump!

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But facilities-wise, it *is* a dump, isn't it? Or have they remodelled recently?

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It is still a dump. But they manage to find some very nice boys to work there, which is more important.

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-- Several months ago I went to 'K-WHY.', (Rama IV. rd.), to avail of their all inclusive 1,500.Bh. package for 90mins. svces..
- I asked for and was given masseur Nu, (a previous respondant in CFS. had recommended him - possibly MORE for his endowment than for his massage skills?),. Quite correct, as I found-out.
- After all were completed Nu politely asked for a little extra, so I gave him my remaining 200.Bh..
- Moral: It pays to find-out exactly what one will be buying before parting with one's hard-earned money.
-- Bibi.. --

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wasn't KY got burned down last year? If so, why is that place still a dump (facilities wise)? Looks like Yannawa has got me interested in visiting KY again. My last visit was at 3 years ago.

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They've moved over a couple doors from where they used to be. Still a dump.

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-- Does this B*tt*m have a name?
-- Bibi.. --

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My past experience of 69 was good. Charged B1,200 without tips. Maybe now they include the tips in the 'set'. Janpa also used to be good, when there were gay masseurs. Now they are all gone, and the straight masseurs are just rubbish. They have no idea what pleases a gay man.

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-- I must allow that after all of my years of taking delights in most of what TH. boyz have to offer I've enjoyed a really experienced B*tt*m only once - a young man whom I picked-up in SILOM COMPLEX SHOPPING PLAZA, (that was before any recent crack-downs in that place.), and who knew how to and was able to contract and to dilate his *n*l sphincter muscles so as alternately to squeeze and to release my ****.
- I was many yrs. younger then, wch. probably helped.
-- Memories! -- Bibi.. --

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Upon receiving bill for 1,800Baht, I did immediately ask if this was including tip. The instant reply was NO, with four extra comments:

- Boy receives 100Baht from the manager, that's his share of the overall price paid
- Minimum extra tip to the boy is 1,500Baht
- 1,800Baht price is a 'set', with several items included, 'face spa' etc etc. and it's 1,800 regardless of whether you avail youself of the other items or not.
- We have new manager.

I must admit I visited this venue perhaps 8 or 9 months ago, and it was (from memory) about 650Baht for 1 hour massage, they had many interesting workers, and I did enjoy the extras.

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Sexytile...I can't remember the bottom's name but will e-mail the friend and ask him and let you know. I do know there is one very cute, straight-looking guy that I would dearly love called Beer...but doubt he is a bottom. Not sure my friend's bottom was very experienced but did go out of his way to enhance the experience, was very loving and appreciative of the anal stimulation and kept cumming and cumming...all you can ask really. I am not a lover of experienced sex workers anyway.
By the way, after my massage, I noted that the boy went to the reception desk and collected Bht1,000 from the owner/administrator....which maybe they give or partialy withhold depending upon the customer's complaints!

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-- Yannawa,
- Thank you for your kind offer and for so generously sharing Khun Beer's particulars with fellow readers.
-- Bibi.. --

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Just got back from Senso.

The place is nicely fitted and the massage rooms are large with ensuite showers. There is a great selection of 12 masseurs.

Why do these places have to pitch the minimum tip at such a high level - THB1000 for 1 hour, THB1200 for 1 1/2 hours. I would much prefer them to show a lower minimum tip and then reward the boy for a good time.

I chose a Mr Gon (?) 20 years old, with very limited English. He has a very heavily tattooed back, but none on his front. I specifically explained to the Mamasan that I wanted a boy to bottom for me and he pointed out 6 supposed bottoms. I also chose a 90 minute massage with their lavender oil, which the mamasan had recommended.

I showered alone to start, and dried myself. Gon was naked from the start and did give a pretty good massage and there was quite a lot of attention to my buttocks and fleeting rubs between my legs and upper thighs.

After I turned over he continued to massage me, rather than initiate any sexual attention. Eventually I did manage to get him to do a limited amount of smoking, but then found out that he was really able to get f****d. The massage pretty much finished after that. Although he was next to me in the shower afterwards, he made no attempt to wash me. To avoid any argument, I decided to pay him the minimum tip, settle the THB820 for the massage and left rather disappointed. I guess, on another day with a different masseur the I might have had a better time. However, I doubt whether I will go back there again!! If the tip had been up to me it would have been no more than THB700

Despite showering, I still feel sticky, so I would suggest anyone going to Senso, avoid the oil with lavender.

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I had pretty much the same experience regarding the shower alone at the start and no touching afterward. I thought my masseur was named "Tong" but I guess it could have been Gon. He did have a major tattoo across his back and his behavior was very similar.

At the concluding shower I tried to soap his back and he said he didn't like that. I would have thought in a place like that some basics like showering together would have been de rigueur.

He responded well to me smoking him, but his attempts at a happy ending for me by hand were hopeless. He did resort to smoking me, but the overall experience was somewhat disappointing both in terms of the massage and the extras that are supposed to justify the higher price and tip.

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