And even that is 4km away.

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no-a little less, I think you talked about another place hidden along that new road cutting through west - Kasert navamin.
Yes-the Mall BK is closest (I had a god meal in the Happyland foodcourt-across from it and beyond an old dept store-now MBK-like stalls, with a long row of red songhthaews. They have loads of Burmese/Shan style food too there-think Chiang Mai.
Take most buses from in front of that dept store-opposite Mall-toward ram Indira, like 95, 150, 156, 178. OR buses coming from Ram-like 60,71, 501 (comes from Hualampong and Siam-thats a long ride).
As I said-not worth the trouble ''vault le voyage'' but IF you happen to be nearby worth a short detour.
Closest by are WhiteHouse, Ban Kluay (just beyond lamsalee) and a little further out men101 along Lard prao 1010-reported on a few weeks ago.
Their webiste o=is hosted by TMB vbut done by themselevs and quite good-even has a guestbook. They run a casino-like promosyen in march-draw a tikcet with % of disocunt.

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AND it seems the new places have no end in opening:
noted was the PRINCE along Suan Plu.
Nearby is now also LOHM CHOEY-along Ram IV, and adverstising in Out-in-Thailand. No exact adress, I gather its in that holey garage like some others.
BBB-Inn now also says it offers massage-the old K-Why was just beside.
www.MaKhamwan.com- www. (come sweet words?)- along Sri Nakarin-around Seacon. Maybe safer re police raids as that 8,5.
url=http://www.preuksabureau.com is longer there, but seemed to have only delivery by fone. But there www now says they either have an offcie or some shop close by to 39 Undergrd sauna or the cinema there. I'll check later what it might be.

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ONNUT venues.
First the same bad news: rate has gone up-but not yet in all places, with 50 bt. it is now 150/300 bt/60 mins-for Thai or oil.
Wanted to test that Pulalai-along main rd Onnut-opposite the old Carrefr/now BigC.
Walked along the other soi with msg-had some vague hope to see that Takrai hom couple again-of course not. In Dahla 4-5 eager looking men-but a litttle old.
Foodcrt in BigC awful-was already bad at Carrefr-now again down the drain. tesco full to the hilt, but also no good food.
Then walked onward-Pulalai is more private closed off, but when I stoped to check the boiard a screaming lady ran out and started to yell msg-the best way to put me off. Saw only 1 older man in the then open door.
BUT luck struck. In fact there are more msg shops spread out in that area. Walked back to main rd Sukh-went right =toward town and passed a place named Ton or Tom Thong, where 2 nice las were just sitting and eating. On 1 my gaydar went 50/50-we talked a bit and agreed. Oil is here still 250 bt-not much lost. He proudly told me to be ''me look kreung-BKk and Isan!'' 21/2 yr old-nice to look at, nice firm body too.Place is basic and bit rundown/well used place, but very clean. Cabins only partly separated-shower lukewarm at best. Good well-trained msg, with vanity thin towel above me. We chatted a little-no english at all here, except the ''msg'' and he started to ask if I knew maybe other msg-shops with 'borikarn phiset?"" Would that be worth changing work to? I laughed and he started to get bold and grope me-which was all fine and what I was after. No big deal, but a very nice and worthwhile to repeat encounter. He gave me his mobuy nr-could I please fone and tell him more and give advice about other work?
he also confirmed what I had heard more there- most workers are not tied to a specific shop-there are 3-4 chains, they turn up in the morning and get told where to go to. Unless you are longer working and fixed. Most only work part-time untill some better position turns up.

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AQUA spa in Satorn soi 9.
My first visit to here. Nice big house, well kept, but in some spots showing its age. They also had a saune, but this is now closed. You still use the facilities of it; lockers, shower etc.
Friendly reception, good english, boys are like ''working out'' in the guy you stare into and pose for selection. This time-I had told it was my 1st here- they said they would have me choose first and then answer. This worked out quite OK. Around 12/14 present on a weekday eve.
Jack was a amiable northern looking guy from NAN, who worked there aprttime and had a normal daytime job at some offith of a company, well built, 2-3 motosy scars on the side. Spoke good english and that lovely northern Thai too. At 30 a little older as my estimate.
Rooms are small, have mirros on all sides, incl ceiling and have a monitor showing poh-JPnese this time. jack sat sometimes silent watching it, but his msg was quite OK, strong and a bit slow. he soon turned into more erotic strokes and and grew hard and used this as well. Had a big one and knew how to use it. Minus was that it all came pretty quick-you cannot have all.
Fairly expensive to what I am used to; the 60 mins cost 550 b (sitye says 450) and the min tip is 1000-though he did not seem to get more mostly, as he was quite delighted with a red one extra.

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IMa Spa-in Liberty HTL, Pradiphat-across from the karaOk bars there.
Seems ot have changed magement and a lick of fresh paint, but remains a grotty rundown place though.
No english at all, rates are 5/700 THB for 60/90 mins. Tip is min. 700.
Row of rooms on upper floor-as sun shines in, pretty hot-took ages for AC to cool down. Timbered high beds-but with rough edges, plasticmattress-with just a very thin cover. All rooms have shower in-a bit dirty. Soap was ''hmot''=finish in the shiny brand-bottle.
There was a choice between 9 guys and I choose s hunk (for girls) from Surat- Samui in fact. As most southern Thai everything went quick- talking, massage, the act. had a big and strong one-but bent more about 60 dger. to the left-poking sidewards. Seems he belonged also the the fresh faces-worked there since 1/3-before for some time in a karaOk bar-but I guess he was not really the type for much entertainment that style. Now finish this just as quick as that time.

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and anohter new one; on TMB- the BOY-again some fancuy new design palce far away in some moo baan-off ram Indira (K-male is about the closest by). Fairly hi-price and min tip 1000-likely another discreet hi-so home delivery place.

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Went there this week. Feel rather disappointed.
Boy selection around 3.30pm limited- ( 3 boys) but the one I picked was nice build good-looking and extremely friendly -from Myanmar He started with a kiss so very nice. But he could not keep it hard all the time and clearly was not interested in cumin. The wet scrub was ok - massage so so . Sex wise a turn of due to above

And than there is the pricing and the mamasan with her story about the big room and the special deal. I took it for around 1500 baht- for 90 minutes incl scrub and this big room ( was big but nothing wow) booked also an extra half hour - later on -as thats what was needed for him to get steamed up - Tips go up from 1000 for one hour for the boy to 1750 or so for 2 hours as minimum.

All this is known at the beginning- but quality and that bitchy attitude with a total bill of 2000 baht ( of course had to pay an extra 300 for the BIG room for the extra half hour) and the lame sex is NOT what I was looking for. No more Senso for me

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