Seemed like a good time to check out the new Lavender Hotel in Chiang Mai, So I packed up my favorite boy( just in case) from Bangkok and headed to Chiang Mai on Tuesday.

Arrived airport 2pm and met promptly by Car from Hotel where check in was fast. I had reserved a Deluxe Queen bedded Room. The room had been renovated and was clean and bright. However the bathroom certainly had see better days and toilet was leaking.

Not a good start but I advised front desk and suggested a possible room change while we headed off to check out the Massage Facilities.

The public areas of the massage club were quite nice and there were about 12 boys to choose from at 3pm. We made our choices and headed off to our respective rooms. The rooms are renovated Hotel rooms. Well done with regular beds and pillows and ensuite bathroom.

My massage was excellent although amateurish. It was sensual and enjoyable. The happy ending not as complete as I might have liked but then I choose a straight boy it seems. Still no complaints because boy did everything within his own constraints to make the hour fun. High marks for the total experience and really nice massage room. My friend from Bangkok said his massage was ok but the fun afterwards was great with a horney Gay Boy.LOL

We went out for a meal at a forgettable restaurant and then headed back to the Hotel. Decided to checkout the Pool which is small but quite nice. Nice loungers and Bar and best of all the hang out place for the boys of Power Boys ( GoGo Club downstairs)

Lot of really nice eye candy and probably will lead to some early evening fun tonight. Last night we just watched.

Power Boys opened at 9pm and we got there a few minutes after. Club is on lower level of Hotel. Beautiful room , well lit stage and good music at a reasonable level. No smoking.

About 22 boys on stage and lo and behold they were dancing. And they danced whenever on stage and rotation of boy was constant. Very well done. Overall the most combination of swimmer, and gymnast bodies I had seen in a long time. I would say no stunners from a facial perspective but many from a beautiful body experience. I don't mean Tawan type boys . These are boys who have naturally lean and worked out bodies with nice muscle tone. The fact that they are constantly moving makes their bodies stand out even more.

The bad news for me was that the boys I focused on the most were straight and not willing to Bottom or so they said. I had already focused on the young Mamasan who seated us so I was quite sure I would have some fun later. The show started at 10pm Lots of costumes and lip synching. Not my cup of tea but very well done.

Show was lasting too long so I told young mamasan, lets go upstairs. He was out of his uniform and back in 5 minutes. What a nice thing. Leave club , get into elevator and in room in 3 minutes. Boy delivered on all promises.

Back down to Club where 2nd show was in progress. This show had some simulated sex and erotic skits. My boy from Bangkok had focused on a boy so I told him to head upstairs and have fun while I watched the show. He did just that.

When the show finished the boys were back on stage and dancing. The club was not crowded but a steady flow of customers and it was a Tuesday night.

The fact that everything was in the same building made the day really fun. Massage in the afternoon, pool boys in the early evening.Go Go Bar with attractive boys and your room just 2 or 3 minutes away. Who could ask for more.

I have to be honest, I was not paying a lot of attention to prices. However the 1 hour massage was 600 baht, tip at your discretion.

The pool bar prices were I think 40 baht for sodas and 80 baht for beers. The club had a fairly extensive drink menu which ran from 120- 300 baht for ice cream drinks. The off fee for my mamasan was 500 and I think regular buys are 300 but it might be 400.

By the way . Our room was changed and upgraded and very nice. More reports tomorrow and will check out Adams Apple.

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I'll be staying at the Lavender in two weeks time. Please explain a couple of things:

1) When you pick a massuere, can't you ask in advance whether or not he's gay?

2) Can the pool boys be offed?

3) How much did you tip the massuere and the mamsan?

4) Assuming your "boy" from Bangkok isn't a BF, how much does it cost to hire these boys for a number of days?

5) Any chance I might find someone at the hotel who'll accompany me for a week travel through north Thailand? Perhaps act as a guide and driver?

Thanks.

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1.You can ask mamasan but better to talk to boy and tell him what you expect before you go to massage room.

2. Boys at pool are either working in massage parlor or gogo boys at night. Your choice to take them for massage or pay standard off fee and take to room.

3. I rarely would tip mamasan unless especially helpful in some way. There is no minimum tip stated in massage parlor but I think 1000 baht is almost always acceptable for massage boy or short time upstairs.

4. Boy from Bangkok is a Boy from Xboys. He is very good company and his English is pretty good. My acceptable rate for overnights in Bangkok is 2000 baht so I just figure number of nights x 2000. Of course this boy got a lot of extras including boys for him to have sex with alone. Thats my choice not something he expected.

By the way that overnight tip is for Bangkok. I think you will find 1500 acceptable in Chiang Mai or Pattaya.

5. They can arrange guides or even gay guides at Hotel. My understanding is they will be guides only.

Boys would not make good guides. First the Chiang Mai boys seem to have very limited English skills and have not travelled much.

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2000 or even 1500 baht is out-of-your-mind. Where do you people get these amounts? I've had great times for 500 baht or less. Inquire around and find out how much these guys would make in a real job. 2000 baht is totally insane.

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I have no doubt you can find boys for short time on the street or in Pattaya for 500 baht. Gayromeo another possibility and the end of month improves your chances.

But one thing for sure you will not get a GoGo boy in Bangkok for such a ridiculous sum.

I am sure you can do better then 2000 per night but that is what I choose to pay him. For me he is worth every baht. This boy goes off most nights so when I take him on a trip I have to at least replace his lost income.

In Chiang Mai and Pattaya I am sure you can find gogo boys for short time at 700 or even less. I choose to pay 1000. I think it is fair . I don't tell you to give your boys more and I don't expect you to tell me to pay less.

This forum is to give information and a new person can make his own determination what he is comfortable paying.

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I stay away from bars, and go-go and massage places--but I heard that those guys do not get offed every day (a lot of time is wasted waiting and waiting). They might get offed infrequently. So if you're taking one on a 7-day trip or whatever and paying 2000 baht per day, he is making a huge fortune. I think they will be very happy with 1000 baht per day. Can someone please let us know how much these boys might make at a real job? I really don't know what Thai wages are but I've heard that 150,000 baht per year for a college graduate is a lot of money. And government workers make very little. I don't want to sound nasty, but I wince when I see someone raking in a huge fortune like that--it inflates their greed and the greed in general. I stick with saunas and places that avoid that mentality.

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Did you by any chance visit Adams Apple? If so, would appreciate your comments. Thanks.

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Did you by any chance also visit Adams Apple? If so, would appreciate your comments. Thanks.

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I did visit it but not my cup of tea. Boys were bigger and older. Not Tawan size but in between swimmer gymnast body and Tawan.

More nudity and probably some x rated but did not stay long enough. Although it is very modern and clean looking, i found all the types of seating uncomfortable. Seating is designed to jam the most number of people into the space. I was there on a Wednesday and it was very very slow. I tried all 3 types of seating and found them all uncomfortable. My boy from Bangkok agreed with me.

That said I am sure it has a wide audience and I understand it is jammed on weekends.

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I do not want to insult anybody but at times I get tired of people who compare the jobs and the tips of a barboy with a "real job" and the salary a boy can earn there. Just think back a few decades and picture yourself on a stage , wearing nothing but white briefs and some old guys staring at you, maybe making obscene gestures and remarks. What would have been your "price" then for accompanying a customer to his room where you have to offer the service we all know, compared to the "average income" of an unskilled worker then. I think giving just 500 B is insulting. Ok, just my opinion.

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It's nice to see you and a few others making these and similar comments.

The same applies to those of us who also have a long term friend who depends on us to some extent for economic support. If one spends all his time trying to figure out the least amount he can give his friend, using a 7/Eleven clerk as the standard and if he is constantly worrying that the young man is plotting to extract more from him, what's the point of even maintaining such a "relationship?"

For the bar boys, especially in Bangkok, I think B2000 should be an absolute minimum unless they have some really bad attitude . Aside from giving him a reasonable amount for the work he is doing, it can also be self-serving. If you off the same boy several times and he gets to know you and to know you'll treat him fairly, almost always you'll be the beneficiary. If he's happy he'll want to make sure you're happy too. Paying a reasonable amount doesn't make the boys greedy, but treating them badly and paying something ridiculous like B500 or even B1000 will certainly make them cynical, suspicious and far less likely to want to make an effort to please.

Over the past ten years the tipping amounts discussed on message boards seem barely to have changed. Think about what you paid for things or for services ten years ago compared to now. The tips ought to have increased over that time at least at the same rate.

And, if someone has a long term friend who he claims to love or at least care about, money will cease to be an issue between you if you make sure he has enough to be comfortable and he feels free to ask if there is some special need. My friend always makes me happy (and I don't mean just sex) so I want him to be happy too, and not just as happy as a 7/Eleven clerk.

Anyway, it's nice to see that many people have such a generous attitude and are willing to speak up.

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I think these Thai guys see us coming. They're looking to make as much as they can. I've tried being nice and generous--only to be taken advantage of with more pushy greed. That's one reason I don't feel comfortable paying top price (no haggle)--because that really sets them off to take advantage. I also avoid ones who think they're cute (but I've also had bad experiences with unattractive ones). I always thought that if they're slightly ugly, they're more humble and grateful. But the slightly ugly ones turned out to be the most demanding--only to be dumped as soon as possible.

Here is what someone posted on another string--

WARNING "Game" on GayRomeo.

I have seen this 21 y.o. boy, (named Game,) regularly for about 6 months. Not the prettiest of faces but a huge shaved appendage and pretty insatiable sex drive and enthousiastic performer. I always rewarded him with 1,000bt plus taxi for an hour or 2 session, he never stayed overnight and always accepted the tip with a smile. Then last week, for no apparent reason, he not only stole my Blackberry, but after selling it asked for a lot of money to sell me back my sim card which he had extracted pre-sale. This is the first time in nearly 20 years I've ever had anything stolen,

He uses 2 handles on GayRomeo "c_boy" and "sexi_lovely_boy"

You have been warned !

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Thanks Firecat.

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...re your exchange with Wantasian.

Irrespective of sex, whenever I travel abroad and meet the less fortunate part of humanity (at least in terms of relative wealth), I refrain from haggling. It's my way to contribute to the redistribution of global wealth, from the 1st world usually to the 3rd.

2000 bht is c $70. Where on earth can you get anyone to service you 24 hours for that amount of money?!

The sexual part just reinforces my case. I don't know about Wantasian, but I wouldn't do what these boys do even for 2,000,000,000,000,000......bht.

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I agree with you completely.

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