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I had a look at the listings and made some comments (have to pass check before being published). Doesn't look that bad. Please mark listings of places that are gone as such, but don't delete the listing. I like this on travelgayasia: "reported closed". There are various websites with mostly outdated information about gay venues. Unless you have someone on the ground to check, it's not worth pursuing this relying on updates by readers. I am busy enough with my life and blog.
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The last two or three years I've been putting comments on the page for a place, most often Closed, deletion pending on places reported closed. Sometimes I have an expanded explanation, especially when the place's status is in doubt or it's an "historical landmark" of sorts for sex, like Chicago's Bijou Theatre. At one time I deleted places that had been closed at least two years, but I've fallen behind on that due to the pressure of other work on the site and various personal matters. On a side note, last week I purchased the licenses for the latest versions of the different software used for the Sex Listings and the Personals. I also purchased the license for another package I'll use for the CFS Home Page and related pages. All will be mobile-friendly. I expect that when I install this I can add a "custom field" to the database so that the Sex Listings pages will automatically display a "Closed" notice without me having to manually copy-and-paste or type words in. I'd also see if the Search functions could be set up so that users could choose whether to include or exclude closed places. Down the road, the same developers offer a Message Board different from this archaic one and also integrated with all their other software. They also offer a Photo Gallery with the same integration. All would be up-to-date and easier to use together. I know that for loyal users of the Message Board that would be a big change. I don't know when it will happen. Some always cringe a little bit at change; I know I do every time my PC tells me I have a Windows Software Update. Working in programming since the 1980s for small organizations with small budgets the mantra always was, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." However, with the vast changes in the Internet since I kludged together and integrated and customized the current CFS software for Keith, I believe the site is, in fact, "broke" and getting more so by the day.
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Back to subject: listings
CLOSED are all Cal-wow fitness-the firm went broke. Most locations still have some form of fitness-other name. No idea how cruisy that may be. Proud 66 is closed. Specific note re TH; it is an offence to call a place closed when it is not-has to do with unfair competition. There have been errors with places now only opening weekends etc reported as closed. hence I support christian's suggestion. But then I also think a site like this, based faraway, wont be prime subject for such moves. Walking men along Sukhumvit-I guess last one must have been walking around 2000. Even around silom they have disappeared. Have now only scanned list till H. As I did not see it for ages, it struck me -naturally of course, it has lots of assumed cruisy spots. Delete all Big C pissoirs-they have done a big clampdown on that. The best sites for uptodate lists in Pattaya is like nickygaypattaya ChiangMai: gayinchiangmai. But then that travelgayasia gets the same info very soon after, so no real need for separate listings there. Listing sites that are more like museums of gay antiquity: dreadedned, nickygaybangkok, stickyrice, utopia-asia. Started to google further, there is also (place-Thailand)worldgayguide.com, mostly Japanese-thorough- partly uptodate, but also does not delete nor seems to know about places closed. Was in fact a good find for such forgotten places.
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Further to that Q re listing:
of commercial places these have closed-long, long ago: Torpedo sna, HE msg New name: B&N is now UNIman, STYLE sna is now Men Factory, Paradise sna is renamed and I think, not sure, since closed too. 1 of the 2 Chinatown cinema;s has closed.
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Thanks for this, and sorry for the late reply. I bookmarked your post so I could come back to it and see what I can do to clean up the Sex Listings.
My time is quite limited these days and I'm unsure when I will be able to come back to the updates that are needed. Any help people can make by posting directly on the Sex Listings page for the place brings it up directly in my queue of places to edit and update, and in those cases I will address them much sooner. I do understand, though, that a huge number of the Listings are out of date and that it might not be possible to keep them up to date. I am going with ChristianPFC's suggestion about marking places "reported closed." FWIW, I have a relative who lives in a different Southeast Asian country and I understand the need to follow protocol and avoid giving offense. Guidance is appreciated when one is an outsider. As someone whose father piloted cargo planes into Manila, Da Nang, the city then called Saigon, and Bangkok decades ago, I definitely don't want to appear as the "Ugly American" I recall as a child. In any case, thanks for your help. Bob S.
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And UNIMAN msg is now also reported closed-their www is still on.
Back to what I have stated; Just forget special listing on this site-there remain very very few for BKK after all these closings and just refer to a listing like TGA that does get regularly updated and also lists many more.
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This may be stale news for some but JUPITER 2002. is scheduled to move and to OPEN in an exciting new location: Si lom soi 4. - next door to BALCONY PUB., (olde timers may remember the building as 'ROME CLUB.').
Besides an exciting new location we are promised 'Exciting new ideas.'; 'Exciting new shows.'. OPENING DATE is scheduled sometime during this month of April 2017.. The new Jupiter will call itself JUPITER 2018..
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