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Old 14th May 2004, 06:49 PM
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poppers?

okay so I am a honry guy that's new to the scene and a little curious about poppers. Are they safe, are they fun, is there a difference in brands, best use, etc? please educate me.
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Old 16th May 2004, 06:14 AM
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There have been countless discussions on CFS about poppers. Many people will tell you that what you are buying aren't the real deal ... supposedly "real" poppers are illegal. But what you are finding in the bookstores, arcades, and on-line today aren't the "real" poppers, so we can end that discussion right now.

When it comes to the poppers that are available, it really comes down to personal preference. I have read a lot of discussion about poppers and one thing is for sure, people are loyal to their favorites. When it comes to finding a brand that you like, it's all a matter of experimenting.

As far as whether or not they are fun, again, it's all a matter of personal preference. I know guys who are popper-heads. They love them and use them all the time. I also know guys for whom poppers do nothing [which may be a brand issue].

I love poppers, they heighten the sexual experience for me, and I use them with some regularity [especially in public toilets] I like to use them near the end of a scene. They don't really do anything for me when I'm getting started. But I'm sure you will hear a different perspective from each individual who uses them. Lots of guys like to use poppers to loosen themselves up, but mentally and physically. You tend to lose your inhibitions when you use poppers. I've taken 12" dicks down my throat after sniffing poppers, whereas before the poppers I would struggle and gag. Guys who like to get fucked sniff poppers to take large dicks.

My favorite brand was given to me by a trick after a public toilet scene. He brought them from Amsterdam and I have been trying to get more ever since. The brand I prefer that is available is "Tall Brown Bottle". As with any consumable, freshness counts. Old poppers are ineffective. Some people swear by keeping poppers in the fridge or freezer.

From what I can tell, based on what I know and what I've read, poppers are safe. Again, the "real" or "original" poppers from 30 years ago are not available any longer. There have been discussions that those poppers were not safe.

The downside to poppers is that you do lose your inhibitions and, like alcohol, when you are not fully aware of your surroundings or "lost in the moment" you take the chance of engaging in risky [read "unsafe"] behavior.
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Old 16th May 2004, 01:51 PM
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Can't... write... another... post... about poppers.

No, seriously. Matt isn't joking: there's TONS of info right here already detailed. Backdate the posts a couple months; everything you could ever want to know is there for you.

Here's the thing... describing what they do is easy enough, from a technical point of view. But everyone reacts differently to ANY intoxicant. Some people are happy drunks, some are sentimental, some are angry, some are sloppy and stupid. Some folks smoke grass and become couch potatoes -- others get keen insights and creative sparks from a little weed. WHO you are is an important part of the equation and makes a difference with how you react. The physical manifestations of most drugs are often very similar, but even these can have variations from person to person. What happens in your head depends entirely upon what is IN your head to start with.

We can describe a sensation or a reaction fairly well if we give it some effort, but even though two people might both understand what "throbbing pain" means, in essence, each of those two people might FEEL it a bit differently or in various degrees. Some folks tolerate pain with ease; others crumble from the slightest pinprick. My aunt won't walk down her stairs if she has her period. She makes a big deal out of it. When my Mom used to have a period, she never cared or let it stop her from doing anything she wanted to do. Mom's view was: "This is part of my life as a woman. What's the big deal?" My aunt's view is: "Oh, this is so horrible. Why, why, why do I have to go through this every month?"

Everything Matt said is correct -- to each his own with regard to poppers. If you're curious, try it and see what you think. Give various brands a shot. It may take time to get used to HOW to use them. The first few times I smoked grass when I was a teenager, nothing happened. Then, suddenly... ONE DAY...

The topic of legality of poppers is simple. You can legally BUY them and have them in your possession, but you cannot actually INHALE them. Just like you can purchase noxious glue for making model airplanes, it's illegal to get caught pouring it into a brown bag and huffing it. This is why poppers are sold as "video cleaner," or "leather cleaner," or "room odorants," etc.

Also, the "old" or "real" poppers are amyl nitrate. These are only legally available to medical professionals. NITRATES are banned by Federal law for sale to consumers. NITRITES are legal to purchase and possess. They may not be as strong as nitrates, but they get the job done.

The thing is, you may happen across a nitrate version of certain brands of poppers. This is more or less "accidental." Poppers made for EXPORT sometimes get sold within the country -- or they are exported and imported back in, I really don't know. Anyway, it's not a good idea to try to ASK for these. If you get some, great. If not -- you'll probably enjoy nitrite based poppers anyway.

A word of warning... Since nitrates are illegal, it's wise to NOT carry them around with you, just in case. You can still get busted with "legal" poppers made with nitrites (possession of an inhalant), but the charges will be MUCH worse if you run into a cop who knows the difference between the two -- or if they are confiscated and sent for lab analysis. Keep nitrates AT HOME, if you ever get any.

My own opinions on storage solutions (freezer, etc.) as well as my own personal brand name preferences AND chemical composition preferences are duly noted in previous posts. Look them up, bearing in mind that everyone likes something different.

Finally, since you're a newbie... Oy... once again: "Do not use poppers with Viagra or ANY other similar medication. Doing so can cause a potentially FATAL reduction in blood pressure."

PS -- one last thing: poppers can stain fabric, carpets, clothing, etc. Use with caution and try not to spill them. Some dude dumped an entire bottle under my cocksucking chair a few weeks ago so now I have a nice bleached out spot on my rug. Luckily it's well beneath the chair and not visible. I also ruined two tank tops by setting a leaky bottle on my chest when getting sucked off. Make sure the cap is tight. Good thing tanks are only $3.50 at Wal Mart.
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Old 16th May 2004, 02:06 PM
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Right On ScruffyCub

I answered the original post because I thought many of the folks who have written about Poppers wouldn't/couldn't write another thing about them. Maybe CFS should have a Poppers Forum? Then all of the information passed around this site and others could be culled into one Forum for anyone interested in the topic.

I'm back to say, Thank You, ScruffyCub for validating what I posted as well as chiming in with more/better/specific information. I was half-thinking you might, but again, wanted to take the proverbial reigns with what I know as a Primer for CreamyBear.
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I'm glad you answered the original post, Matt. I'm certainly a fan of poppers, having used them since I was about sixteen (albeit it took a good year before I found out they were good for sex and not just a head rush in the locker room at school). I even enjoy whipping off a few posts about them from time to time, but I need a break of a few weeks before I can write the SAME stuff all over again.

I think a lot of folks just don't know about being able to select their own post display, which is understandable. If something doesn't show up in their list, they just go ahead and ask a question. I'm all for people asking any question they need to ask: better to learn than not be bothered! But since the info is here already, may as well go check it out. Plus, some threads are different from others: there's info that is repeated as well as new aspects of the topic contained in each response, making old threads a very good reference.

Anyway, I can't say I gave any info that is "more/better/more specific" than you did -- I just babbled on a bit and left it at that. Poppers are highly subjective; what I think and what I feel when using them won't be the same as the next guy, so... all info is worth reading, though not all of it is worth retyping!

(Wondering when my next order will arrive in the mail...)

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Old 18th May 2004, 03:24 AM
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Since you mentioned it, Scruffycub, where do you get your poppers? It sounds like you have a reliable mail order resource.

I didn't really get heavy into poppers until a few years ago (I'm 33). Tricks would offer me their little bottles and I always politely declined. I wasn't sure about them. Then I started reading posts like this one here on CFS and came to the educated decision that they were essentially harmless (outside of perhaps contributing to risky behavior, just as alcohol does) and began to try different brands. I was hooked when a hyper-handsome guy offered me his bottle at an arcade and then huffed through each nostril himself. He went down on my cock and sucked the cum right out of me. It was incredible.

I buy my poppers at adult bookstores (ABS) in and around the city. I have bought some other brands on-line. While some people will warn of ordering poppers through the mail, I've never had a problem with delivery, but I also only order from U.S. companies. In the end, I decided that my favorite brand was one that I could buy locally so I haven't bought any through the mail in quite a while.
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Matt... backdate the posts to find out where I get my poppers!



OK, just kidding -- but that info IS posted. Gotta admit, that's funny...

Anyway, I also have a local ABS source for my favorite brand (Jungle Juice), but I use mail order as well because it ends up being cheaper in the long run, even with the (minimal) shipping charge.

Give Keith's sponsor a click from the CFS site; if advertising here works like most website advertising, CFS will get a few pennies for each link-over.

The sponsor you want is Picture Brite.

I've been doing business with them for YEARS, long before their ads showed up here. These guys rock. Big selection of poppers as well as adult toys, THE BEST PRICES you'll ever find online and quite often even better than the prices in adult bookstores. FAST service, discrete, reliable and highly professional. I can't say enough good things about them: they have NEVER screwed up one of my orders. I have no affiliation with them or with CFS, but I think it's appropriate to give kudos to any company that provides such outstanding service.

You mentioned "tall brown bottle" in your first post, but I wasn't sure if you were saying these actually came from Amsterdam or they are NOW your preferred brand since poppers from overseas are hard to get. But yes, Picture Brite carries a generic "tall brown bottle." Personally, I purchased many of these over the years: the price is right, for sure. But I do now prefer Jungle Juice, though as we discussed, everyone likes something different. I can't promise the "tall brown bottle" you may get from Picture Brite will be as good as what you find in your ABS, but it's worth a shot. I think they're $5.50, off the top of my head. Jungle Juice is $12.

You can order with credit card, money order or personal check. I use money orders and send payment in the mail. I did order with credit card online once and have to admit -- the order was here in about four days. With money order, they don't bother to wait for it to clear, they just treat it as cash payment and ship immediately, so those orders reach me in seven days most times. Ten days max, usually only during heavy mailing seasons like Christmas and Mother's Day.

The only "trick" to placing an order with them via US Mail is that they close on Thursday and reopen on Monday. If you can time your payment to reach them on a day when they are open, they will ship immediately. If the payment arrives on a Thursday, you have to wait until Monday before they ship.

You can print an order form online or just call them. Once you have ordered, they'll send you mailing envelopes and new order forms and a catalog once or twice a year, along with a price list. Everything is in a plain, white envelope with only the return address and nothing incriminating. If you print an order form online, use the "print selection" feature and highlight just the area you want or you'll get about thirty pages. Hell, you can even write an order on a piece of paper and send it to them. BUT -- when ordering poppers you must include a signature and the statement that you "have read and understand the Viagra warning." I'm sure you know what that's all about...

Finally, they are having a 20th Anniversary sale until May 31. Order ANYTHING and deduct 20% from your total. Just make a note of it on your order form. No hassles, just take the discount. This is a great deal, in my opinion, but Picture Brite offers frequent sales and discounts randomly all year. Also, they often have a few of the "cheapo" brands of poppers on sale just about all of the time. I mean, come on... even if they work for a few times and then go stale, how can anyone complain about a bottle of Nitro for $2.50? I've left a few of these cheapie bottles in bookstores after they've served their purpose just so some other dude can get a use out of them.

Oh, one thing I did forget. You have to place a minimum $15 order. I think that's still terrific. Shipping on poppers is $3.50, flat rate, no matter what.

Have fun.
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Excellent!

And thank you!

I really appreciate the information.

I know what you mean about the cheap-o-brands. There is a bookstore I go to downtown that has three stalls in the back that plays the same videos over and over, but when I'm in the mood, I'm there more often than not. They only sell the cheap-o poppers and I buy 1 or 2 bottles and enough tokens. Sometimes I'm finished sooner than usual and I will leave the poppers and the leftover tokens for the next guy ... I figure, why not!

I'm heading over to Picture Brite right now to check them out.

Thanks again!
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You're very welcome.

My order arrived yesterday, in fact (I generally get my mail late at night while walking the dog, so I posted before I checked the box).

I had placed my order one week ago on Monday, so it took only seven days to get here. Three bottles of Jungle Juice @ $12.00 each, minus the 20% discount of $7.20 = $28.80. I've seen Jungle Juice sold in bookstores for up to $25.00 per bottle. Can't beat that price, even with the minimal $3.50 shipping charge. My local ABS charges $15, which isn't bad, but they frequently run out of stock.

One last note for anyone else wanting that 20% discount available until May 31: it's a one time offer. You can't order multiple times and get it, so if you want to place a larger order just once, you'll save more.
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5hit!

I was so excited about the amazingly low prices that I totally forgot to take the discount when I ordered last night.

No big deal though, considering I bought THREE Tall Brown Bottles for what I usually pay for ONE!

Maybe I'll go back and buy a few other brands and look at the 1" ball stretcher again. This time I won't forget the discount! HA! Yeah right...

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Matt,

I, too, have used PictureBrite for toys. I bought the 1" ball stretcher with the two snaps. Let me warn you: it only has about a 4½" inside diameter. It takes some pulling, etc. to get it between my cock and balls. I usually have to put an elastic hair band on, double it, then put the stretcher on, and pull the band out from under the stretcher. But once it's on, it feels great!

Their h-type snap ball spreader is fun to wear also. Just takes some doing to put it on also. If you are not careful, you can get some skin caught in the snaps.

If anyone wants rubber cock rings, skip mail order. Just head to your local hardware store and purchase rubber o-rings. They come thick and thin and various diameters.
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I ordered a "mini dick" dildo from Picture Brite, having a REALLY large dildo at home that my ex could handle a LONG time ago, but even though it's been disinfected and sitting in a drawer for about eight years, I find it inappropriate to use or offer to a guest who might want a toy. I guess I should throw it out, but for some reason it just seems wrong to dump a penis into a Hefty bag.

Anyway, the "mini dick" arrived exactly as advertised, but I must admit I was not happy with it -- and without a doubt, if I handed this thing to a dude he'd end up laughing so hard he wouldn't be able to blow me for lack of breath. It's just what they said it was... 4" long. Now, I KNOW how small four inches is, but I thought perhaps it would have some GIRTH to it. It doesn't! This thing is thinner than most adult male fingers. I doubt even the tightest ass could retain it for long.

But the point is that very often with catalogue orders, you might take note of the listed dimensions but not give it much thought. So do pay careful attention.

I've ordered a few cockrings for Picture Brite and have been very happy with all of them, except for the rubber one. I agree: a hardware store works just as well. The one I got didn't fit. I suppose I might be able to slide it over my dick alone, but never around my balls, too. My leather ring and chain from Picture Brite are excellent; same quality as you'd get in any ABS, but much, much cheaper.

I'm pretty sure the mini dildo and the cockrings were ALL under $4 each. Check out the little guy on the website and feel free to have a good laugh at my expense! I guess it might make for an interesting novelty cocktail stirrer or something...

And of course, since the discount is good until May 31, there's still time. Let's just say I got some QUALITY poppers this time around, too. And like Matt said, even without the discount, the price is really hard to beat.
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I hate to ask this, I have read all the posts I could find on poppers and I didn't find the answer to my question. Scruffy, you mention you have posted many times on the subject and to backdate to find the previous posts, but it seems that these posts are no longer here on the site.

I just got my first bottle of poppers and I am now not sure about proper storage of the little bottle. What are the pros/cons of storing them in refrigerators/freezers/or oter places?

Any info given is appreciated.
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The best advice I can give is to keep the lid secure! Nice and TIGHT!

Poppers' strength is compromised by air.

I keep most of my poppers near my bed or near my porn (also in the bedroom). I do keep a bottle in the fridge but only because it's close to the computer and when I'm cybering or watching cams, I have easy access.

Keeping the lid on tight will also prevent any leakage if the bottle is stored in a bag or a box where it is more likely to be on its side.
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I'm not sure how long the CFS servers keep old posts archived within their original forums -- to be honest I rarely backdate anything and check. There are traditional archives here, but they don't include everything ever written, just some select topics of particularly amusing value.

Anyway -- I think your question is kind of similar to the "six of one, half dozen of the other" metaphor. It really all depends on the preference of the individual. Just as some folks feel it is best to turn off their PC every time they are done using it, while others argue it is better to leave it on all the time: the truth is it probably doesn't matter either way.

I can tell you what I've observed and what I personally do for storage, though:

Like Matt, I keep most of my new bottles of poppers, the ones I will be using in the near future, at room temperature, tightly sealed. Not only does exposure to air evaporate and degrade the quality of poppers, but exposure to LIGHT isn't too good for them, either. I'm talking direct, bright sunlight here. Your poppers probably won't last long if you keep them on the window sill next to the apple pie you are cooling. Overhead lighting and table lamps aren't going to be much concern. But as you've noticed, poppers are contained in dark amber colored bottles and there's a reason for that: the chemical composition can be destabilized by intense light.

When kept tightly sealed, as they age, you may find that sometimes it is tough to get the cap open again. You may be tempted to use your teeth to unscrew it. Don't. You can break the cap, get some of the liquid in your mouth (unpleasant, but it won't kill you as long as you don't drink the whole bottle), or damage your teeth. Run some warm water over the cap if it sticks, or use one of those rubber-grippy kind of bottle opener thingies. This isn't usually a big issue, though: the caps come off just fine most of the time.

I use the freezer for LONG TERM storage, though also like Matt, I have sometimes put a few bottles in the fridge or freezer that are new and I am using currently.

It is my opinion that the bottles kept in the freezer for a long time tend to become thicker and stickier after a while. Some brands go thick in a week or two in the freezer. Others take much longer. When they get thick and sticky, they can cling to the delicate tissue around your nose, producing unpleasant chemical burns. This is just my experience: others may have had better luck and disagree with me.

Bottles left out at room temperature tend to do just fine, and I've had especially good luck with Jungle Juice. It seems to last a REALLY long time, though potency is definitely diminished after three or four weeks.

Once I find that a bottle has become stale, I collect the various remaining dregs in whatever few bottles I have left sitting out that are flat, pour them all into one bottle, then freeze add it to my stored collection in the freezer.

What happens is that the more you use a single bottle, the more it becomes exposed to air. Capping it tightly is the wise thing to do, but no matter what, each time you use it, you expose it to air, it evaporates some (obviously), and eventually it starts to go flat. So no matter what, more than anything else, it is simply USING your bottle that will make it get weak.

Also my own opinion -- after about three weeks, I use a fresh bottle, or when a bottle starts to get below the halfway mark to empty. Jungle Juice never gives me headaches unless it starts to get very old like this. I just get new ones and always make sure what I have on hand is fresh and potent.

Yet the frozen bottles I have still pack some punch. Understand that some of the frozen ones are relatively new, while others are approaching their eighteenth birthday and are now expecting me to buy them a car so they can go to prom. Yes, I have some REALLY old poppers. I think I keep them more as souvenirs of "the good old days" than for any other reason: I don't really use them, but I've checked them out and found that they still technically DO work, but new bottles are much better, by far.

I also mark my bottles. If I buy four new bottles, I'll open two (one for me, one for a guest), then scratch a code into the cap. For example, I'll put a few lines down the cap which tells me this is the newest bottle, just in case they get tossed around and mixed up during a really long encounter and some dude is reaching for various bottles in the general area. Also, I can easily feel these marks in the dark. Clever, huh? I used to just write on them with a Sharpie, but I found that this rubs off when hands get sweaty, full of lube or covered in cum, so... Anyway, once the newly marked bottles expire, I'll open the others, use different marks, then save the old ones in the freezer.

I guess I take it kind of seriously. But hey, they aren't exactly cheap!

The summary, then: new bottles will be fine at room temperature. Freezing will not necessarily extend their useful life, but it also won't hurt, either. Jungle Juice generally does NOT get very thick in the freezer, at least not in the first few weeks. Either choice is fine. Long term storage -- I'd recommend freezing them.

Sorry you asked, huh?
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