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I stayed several times at the Peninsula in Bangkok - a beautiful place, my favourite in Asia - and brought boys to my room without any problems after registering at the check-in desk. The same, by the way, happened at Shangri-La. And: I flew in from planet Earth!
So, Eyesblue10, just go to one of the bars and get involved with a lovely Thai boy and bring him to your room after registering. And be nice to him, please. |
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While in BKK several years ago, I had the opportunity to stay at the Oriental, and it lives up to its reputation. While there, I met a butler for one of the artist suites (at least I think that's what they're called), while at Babylon one night. For the days of my trip remaining, he visited me in my room...and it was one of the best experiences I've had in town. He wasn't interested in money, and sternly scolded me when he thought I was insinuating that he wanted something other than companionship. I have a friend (farang) who works at Shangra La, and I sometimes stay there because I get a deeply discounted room; I've offed some of the help there also...but they're very worried about being caught, and fired. Tricking in the hotel with another farang is a possiblility, but I agree that the chance of bringing in a Thai who doesn't work there is zero...you'll be cut down before you get to the elevators. Advertising that you have a dildo won't be too appealing, but some will go for the poppers.
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Hi
I lived at the Grand Hyatt Erawan for more than a week a few months back and had no problems bringing in guys. I was once very worried as my friend was not dressed well, with what was close to workman's trousers and wore rubber slippers, still no problem. Extremly cute waiters and security guards, but made no success with them other than friendly conversation and lots of smiles. Nearly made it with an extremly handsome Hyatt chauffer, but it was my last day and did not follow through, but got his number for my next visit. [ November 21, 2001: Message edited by: Turtle ]
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Don't want to sound like a wet blanket. But please be a little careful with approaching 5 star hotel staff. Most of these places have very strict rules about staff 'fraternizing' with quests and especially on hotel premises. I've heard that hotel security staff are instructed to observe this matter seriously and report anything which looks suspicious, including timing how long room service staff are actually inside of guests rooms. I've also heard that some hotels in BKK forbid staff to be on the premises outside of their shift hours. I'd also suggest that staff who are 'suspected' could be treated harshly.
I guess my message is, please be quite discreet in any approach. On the other hand staff who willing take up discreet offers to 'play', or who make the approach, it's their risk.
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speaking as someone who is "in charge" of a five star hotel and with more than 20 years of manaing 5 star hotels in Bangkok I have never heard of any such rules or policy. Common sense says that hotel employees on duty have a job to do, and it's not sleeping with the guests. on the other hand what they do on their own time is their own business..
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I think the second poster got it backward. I understood that the cheaper or less classy hotels tend to have more rigid rules about guests bringing in native Thais, perhaps with a view to making sure they get the double occupancy rate. On the other hand, the better ones (Pen, Oriental, Shangri-La, Grand Hyatt Erawan) approach guests with more discretion, figuring you're paying a lot and deserve to do more or less whatever you want in your room.
I had a slightly different experience than most, I suspect. I came to BKK to visit my boyfriend, the other half of TNcouple43, whom I hadn't seen in a year since we'd left Tennessee, where we'd met at university. Once I got my reservation, I emailed the Peninsula and asked them to put him on the register, and they had no problem at all. He stayed with me the entire time, and it couldn't have been more obvious. He was clearly Thai and I clearly farang, but we had breakfast in the restaurant every morning together, had room service and valets come while we were in the room together (even w/ one in the king bed or the shower). The hotel staff had no problem taking photos of us in poses only lovers would strike. They were most kind and accepting (like most of Thailand). We saw some humpy farang guys in the Pen health club but didn't go any further. Also some Asian guys from HKG and KL who were surely looking for action, but we didn't bite. I'd say you can definitely find something in there at the right time. I certainly hope the hotel manager in the previous post works at the Pen, because I'm about to get critical. The Peninsula, particularly my individual guest room there, was the best hotel room I've ever stayed in anywhere, beating the Windsor Court (New Orleans), the Plaza (New York), the Regent Hong Kong (now an Inter-Continental), Four Seasons (Atlanta), Baur-au-Lac (Zurich), Fairmont (New Orleans and San Francisco), and others. It was incredible, really. But other deluxe hotels in BKK weren't as impressive. I thought the Regent looked like a Holiday Inn with nice lobby shops. And the Oriental just wasn't all that. My boyfriend and I were stopping by one morning to look over the menu at the Normandy, and the asshole security guard behind the doorman wouldn't let us in the hotel because we were wearing shorts and looked like tourists. He pretended not to understand me (like anyone there doesn't speak English) and, when I said I wanted to see the menu before confirming our reservation, he tried to give us a brochure of the hotel to make us go away. So my boyfriend spoke to him in Thai and we forced *him* to cancel our reservation because he was being such a total prick. Won't stay there ever, and won't dine there either. I'd go back to the Peninsula in an instant, but my boyfriend wants me to buy him a place in Baan Chao Praya. And I'd just love to do that for him, for us. |
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As a regular visitor to the Oriental and the Normandy I must say in their defence that they have certain well recognised standards of dress and behaviour. This ensures that the residents and guests don't have to put up with a lot of yobs and hoi-polloi noisily wandering through the facilities without consideration to others, just because it's one of the most famous hotels in the Far East.
Even though you may be able to afford to go there that does not mean that you know how to behave there. Your dress and the way you dealt with the security man may be indicative of your unsuitability to be accepted and entertained there. Standards are everything - Money is not. |
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This has turned into an interesting and amusing topic.
What the poses are which only lovers would strike I shudder to think I have visions of an imacculately dressed Peninsula waiter shooting porn movies in one of the guest rooms I guess you have to be lucky if you score with a room sevice waiter, it has happened to me on a few occasions and has always been an unexpected surprise! Like that time in the Hyatt Singapore with a stunner from room service I didn't even think such things were dreamed of in Singapore let alone done! (my food went cold btw) I really thought that the leading hotels were a bit more careful with their staff though. In regard to The Oriental it's a well known fact that people are not allowed in their lobby wearing shorts. There are even signs posted to that effect. I personally feel that it is daft as the Oriental lobby is a lot less grand and formal and perhaps more conducive to casual wear than perhaps the Regent, Sheraton Grande or even the Merchant Court. |
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Haven't tried staying at the Oriental or the Shangri La. Every time I make a trip down to Bangkok for some R&R, I either stay at the Westin or at the Sukhotai. I guess for me it's not so bad. My Thai boyfriend and I don't look like a couple at all (unless they see what we've been doing inside the bedroom, and the bathroom, and the living room ). Being an Asian myself, we look more like work-colleagues. Which is fine with me. I often stay at both hotels on official business trips and I don't want to sound off any bells.
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Telstar, I'm dismayed by your personalized comments about my and my boyfriend's level of class and sophistication. However, I'll avoid joining an epistolary contest with you over it.
The implied points of my comments seem to have gone over your head. Bangkok in late August is fucking hot; everyone wears shorts except at wats and the Grand Palace. The Oriental is far from the Grand Palace, largely resting on its laurels. It's just not all that. And I've seen its guests. Eurotrash on tour and movie stars whose careers peaked 30 years ago don't impress me. We would have been properly attired for dinner, I assure you, and he should not have judged us by our clothing, much as you seem to have judged us by my comments. In all events, once the security guard (not even the doorman, but the buggery security guard) realized we had reservations, he should have treated us with the same deference as any paying guest, many of whom, of course, wear shorts in mid-afternoon entering and exiting the hotel. As for feigning ignorance of English, that's outrageous: he clearly was not man enough to stand up for his employer's conceited policy to an American who, unlike a Thai, wouldn't accept his attitude. (As Edina once said, "You only work in a [hotel], you know. You can drop the attitude.) And for still acting uncouth when my boyfriend addressed him in Thai, that's just inexcusable. A truly classy place would let its ambiance speak for itself, and would not rely on the exceedingly tacky device of posting signs about shorts and tube tops. Establishments, like people, should never make guests feel uncomfortable or unwelcome regardless of their own opinions of the guest's "suitability." I know of no other hotel in the world that would pull nonsense like that. By way of comparison, for example, think of all the restaurants with a closet full of navy blazers for when a guest arrives without a jacket but the dress code requires one. As for photos at the Pen, nothing so racy. We just held each other in an intimate way, e.g. me behind him holding him closely with my hands at his waist. Nothing explicit, but even the most obtuse straight guy would realize we were a couple. |
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Just like guys different hotels and there style and location appeal to different people. What usally makes a really great hotel great is the people who work in them and the service they give. A good manager knows the #1 rule in hiring is appearance..maybe thats why all the guys in the 5 Stars keep getting hit on and more than a few hitting back, I agree with the previous post the hotels who charge a lot figue if your going to pay that much your not going to do anything to embarass yourself or the hotel..most of the time....I can tell you more than a few stories though that a lot of people would not want public
What is usually good reading is how long guests stay when brought into the hotel. From 3 min to three days( a lot of room service)Everyone should also know that alot of the guys come back and back again with differnt new friends much to the humor and amusment of some of the staff..... anyways..act right dress right..smile and be polite and have fun....otherwsie why be there. the hard part is working around a lot of great looking guys and not be able to touch!! |