same "not gay" attitudes when I was growing up. It was fun,, feels great., etc. and as to mutual 'simulations', was usually the attitude of "if do me, I'll do you". GF not putting out, someone got a porn mag, and let's help each other out...
though I admit some guys noticed I didn't demand reciprocation., some also appreciated not having to worry about 'evidence' like sticky tissues or 'spills' with me. (yum)

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