Thanks Firecat.

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...re your exchange with Wantasian.

Irrespective of sex, whenever I travel abroad and meet the less fortunate part of humanity (at least in terms of relative wealth), I refrain from haggling. It's my way to contribute to the redistribution of global wealth, from the 1st world usually to the 3rd.

2000 bht is c $70. Where on earth can you get anyone to service you 24 hours for that amount of money?!

The sexual part just reinforces my case. I don't know about Wantasian, but I wouldn't do what these boys do even for 2,000,000,000,000,000......bht.

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I agree with you completely.

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I should have kept my mouth shut because I really don't know anything about bar boys. But do you really get your money's worth? I've heard that MOST of the time, it just ends up being a rip-off (you don't get what you expect). That's the main reason I've never offed anyone. I've sat there and looked at the boys and all I could think was, "They all look like they'll say anything to get you to agree to a price, and then will hardly do anything." Maybe if you find a really good one, it might be worth 2000 baht instead of wasting the whole evening hoping to find someone. The problem is how do you know if you're just going to waste 2000 baht? I would expect someone masculine, who really gets into it, kisses, and really tries to cum and cum and please me, too.

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I always quiz the Mamasan about the models before I choose one to sit with me for a drink. This is to clarify if they are really gay, top or bottom, etc. Then I get to know the chosen model/s to verify again. Sometimes the mamasan lies, but the models rarely do probably because they know I will find out later and this will affect the tip. However, I have had a few duds in which case I pay a minimum tip. After a while you learn how to be more discerning about which bars to go to and even which models to choose. And you can come to this blog to gain from other people's experiences.

Most of the time I certainly get my money's worth

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I agree.I get my moneys worth and more 90% of the time.

But you have to gain knowledge from this and other boards. In Bangkok my favorite bar is Xboys. At that particular bar I don't remember the last time in 2 years that I did not get my moneys worth.In Pattaya Funnyboys has been good to me 80% of the time.

For me Jupiter is the opposite . 100% Losers . I gave them 5 chances and they will never get another. There may be some service oriented boys in there but I was unable to find any.

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When you ask about if they're a bottom, what does that mean? I never understood the term. Does it mean they get fucked in the ass, or does it just mean they lay their and let you do everything? And if they're a top, does that just mean that they fuck? Or do they kiss, get sucked, etc.? I'm not so much into anal. I like hot kissing and good sucking (most guys don't really know how to suck).

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Gee, you mean Thai guys working in gogo bars and at massage venues to provide sexual experiences aren't providing those services as an act of charity?
I'm shocked.


I don't know how long you've been in Thailand or if you've even ever been here, but I think most of us who have been here for many years will agree that the vast majority of boys are honest, accomodating and make life in Thailand an on-going dream come true.

I suspect you are just a troll trying to stir the pot or else you have an amazing difficulty relating to people who are almost always exceedingly pleasant companions ( no matter what they might be thinking of you). Possibly you bring out the worst in people.

If you really are in Thailand I suggest you stop all the suspicious analysis of who's trying to cheat you out of a few baht and enjoy the experiences available here. Otherwise you really should consider moving on to a place that better suits you.



That could never be said of you. You sure suck mak mak!

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As far as I know, if you're a bottom it just means you're into being fucked and top means you're into fucking. It has nothing to do with other sex activities such as sucking, kissing,...

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