Am I Gay? - Page 3

Specific200 · #31 12th August 2006, 02:18 AM

The point is what designates on as gay? Obviously if having sex with and being married to a women for 20 years does not make a gay man straight, why, then, would having sex with a male make a man gay?

The answer is the same as I have already stated--because sexual acts cannot make one gay or straight. They may indicate whether one is gay or straight, but they have no causal power to "make" one gay or straight.

If sex acts had power to make one either straight or gay, then all gays would need to do is have sex with females and they would be miraculously straight.

If gay males get pissed off because they think the guy sucking their dick in an ABS *HAS* to be gay are deluding themselves as much those religious nuts who think they can "cure" a truly gay or lesbian person.

ButchMascGuy · #32 14th August 2006, 05:47 AM

If it weren't for the fact that homosexuals are second class citizens, we could declare victory and everyone would be happy. But, don't let the label of second class citizen offend you if it makes your life a little more difficult or inconvenienced in some way.

But, we arn't happy because we are not first class citizens. If homosexuals were first class citizens, we'd be able to legally marry and enjoy all of the legal and binding enollments which attach to the legal sanction of marriage. If homosexuals were first class citizens, we could not be arbitrarily fired from our jobs for being homosexual. If homosexuals were first class citizens, we could not be arbitrarily denied housing on the basis of our homosexuality.

And, yes, if homosexuals were first class citizens, we could demonstrate our patriotism and become members of the armed services without having to compromise our dignity as human beings by the denigrating effect of "don't ask, don't tell, don't inquire" doublespeak hypocrisy.

But, homosexuals are not first class citizens. And some of us Queers are not happy with the status quo which marginalizes our very existence on the fringes of society.

So, when someone begs the question "Am I gay", it ought to be abundantly clear that some labels do matter when it comes to whether or not you are a first class citizen as a matter of principle with the enforcement of the law and the Constitutional protections of our liberties and freedoms.

Specific200 · #33 15th August 2006, 03:01 AM

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Originally posted by ButchMascGuy
If it weren't for the fact that homosexuals are second class citizens, we could declare . . . .

Again, this thread is not about being a first class citizen and gay rights. It's about if a guy who started the thread is gay. He never said, "If I come out, I might not be able to marry, so today I'm not gay."

And don't be so fast to write off those who suck your cock at a GH once in a while, but know they are not gay, who vote for those who support gay rights, and all rights for that matter, and write letters to their representatives, and voice publically their opposition to such people, and still call themselves straight--or more accurately, "not gay."

Your issue isn't a gay only issue. It's a rights issue that applies to all people, regardless of what label they have. When gays stand up for gay rights, it puts a face on the issue, for sure, and more faces makes the point that gays are everywhere and a part of society.

But when straights talk out about gay rights, it allows other straights to see that it's ok to speak out for gay rights without having thier sexual identity questioned--from both straights and then as a double wammy, gays too.

That tactic could cause more harm to gay rights than any other single thing I can think of, simply because it puts-off and eventually excludes a sizeable amount of people from supporting--at least publically-- the equal rights for gays.

Those who have bisexual encounters once in a while, but know they are not gay, may be a sizeable (and perhaps growing) population and gay rights biggest ally. Don't exclude us by trying to tell us what we are.

gaycloud1 · #34 15th August 2006, 05:40 PM

Who cares? I am what I am and happy with it!!!

robert_muncie · #35 29th September 2006, 08:17 PM

You're lucky you started earlier than I did, I only sucked a guy off when I was 52. It was after my divorce and I was sort of wary of women and always thought about being with a guy. Anyway, I picked a guy up via the internet, one of the chat rooms and met him at my office on a weekend night and sucked him off. It was terrific, I loved sucking his cock and still am an avid cocksucker. I remarried but still see guys, I consider myself bisexual, it's great, I have twice the choices. However, most of my contacts now are with guys cause I just love sucking cock, could do it everyday and everynight. I love having a cock in my mouth and am trying to deep throat. I'm getting better and certainly wish I had started earlier. You young guys are lucky. But don't worry about the gay thing, it's not really important, a silly label. I suck off straight, bisexual (mostly) and gay guys, don't see any difference in their cocks, they are all good.

COCKSUCKERSLUT · #36 17th November 2006, 02:06 AM

You KNOW what you are. Nobody else can tell you.

However, I find it difficult to believe that you are "not attracted to the men, just the sexual organs." Would you treat an 80 year old man with a hard cock the same way you would a 30 year old with the body of Adonis? If so, then I would agree with you, it's just the cock you're interested in. If you're only interested in the young guy, you're like most of the gay guys out here.

BELIEVE IT BABY! If it's hard I will suck it, if not I will make it so. I don't care what it's attached to. I done me some fat ol trolls. I LOVE women I like men. I don't like kissing men not because they are men but because they kiss like men. I have even dated men, hot smart funny men that I liked a lot and it ended up just being a blow and bolt. Didn't want to cuddle with the hot hairy hunk. That would be my male preference too a man just like me, if I was picking out men. But I am not I am always picking out women. You KNOW what your sexual orientation is. Nobody else can say.

COCKSUCKERSLUT is Hetroflexible.

robert_muncie · #37 17th November 2006, 08:08 AM

I know I've done one night stands, the result of being horny and just wanting to suck cock but I like it better if I can have a conversation with the guy and if he has a body like Adonis, that's a super turn one. With some guys, I like to fondle and kiss, it's very nice, and it adds to the sexual experience. Obviously this is what is known as a sexual attraction. And of course if the guy fondles back and gets involved that's also a turn on. It's pretty obvious whether your partner just wants your mouth to be a cunt and slams away until he cums or if he is trying to have a pleasant experience with another person. I try to avoid the former but in the early days I did have a couple of unpleasant experiences with the later and quickly ended the session. Though I'm sure some guys might not mind being treated like an object to be used or abused.

I do agree, you know what your sexual orientation is though when I first started it was being clarified in my mind partly because I was resisting it. Now if someone asks, I'm bi-sexual. This implies to me that I'm interesting in the emotional side as well as the sexual side. I have a few regualr contacts and they are friends I don't consider them lovers and I don't believe they consider me anymore than a good friend. I seriously read someone's profile, their comments and I engage in some sort of priliminary conversation prior to meeting someone. If I have a good impression, I'll meet with straight guys, gays or bisexuals. Though I've noticed that the straight guys are often uptight and I suspect really don't like us or feel terribly guilty about the whole affair.

One of the previous entries posited the idea that bisexuals are probably on the side of gays when it comes to social acceptance and I think that is certainly true. I know I support them and totally accept their right to choose. One of my regualr contacts is gay and he's terrific in bed, has a beautiful cock and be reciprocates masterfully. I enjoy being with him and fondling him in bed. I guess there is a continuum of sexual activity that runs from one night stands (just sex) to casual sex ( sex and an effort by the partners to explore an emotional connection) and up to social sex (regular meetings with sex and a social/emotional connection) up to lover (sex/social and emotional connection between the partners) and ending in committed partners. Each step in the continuum may have many variations.

One could be a pig at a sex party and just provide sucking and fucking and other services with no emotional connection at all. But that may be what someone's psyche needs at that juncture in their life. Or one may just want to explore being a pig to see what it's like. I admit that I like being the main cock sucker in a three some or foursome, like serving the other guys with my oral and anal orifices, find it really sexually stimulating but I do it only with my regular contacts and sometimes they bring a friend (and we have to agree on his being allowed into the group). For this is role playing and I like to explore my limits and at the same time we are all exploring that. In any case, it's all great fun. I hope all you guys find what you want and don't hurt anyone unless that's what they want. A nice whipping now and then can be very stimulating, don't you think?

Qbancock · #38 17th November 2006, 09:53 PM

The original poster and I sound a lot alike.

My wife is hot and I have two sons. I never had a lack of female companions and have done everything under the sun sexually with women.

In high school I started thinking about guys but never acted on it.

At the ripe old age of 40 I got divorced and my best friend who IS gay and I were in my condo looking at porn
( didn't I KNOW what was cumming next ?) when he just bent over and started giving me head.

We ended up in the bedroom in a hot 69 and the rest is history. I know see him very occasionally.

Nine years later I go to the Roman holiday at least twice a month, meet guys and have sex. I fuck, have never been fucked, don't really like to suck cock but like getting sucked and I rim.

Every time that I did something I got a little bolder. it took me a LONG time to go to a bath house or actually call someone and get together at their house just to have sex.

I actually engaged in " small talk ' with one of my first internet connections and he had to basically tell me that that was not the way this type of encounter was played so why waste time.

I'll still go to a TJ whorehouse and fuck a girl on Monday and go to the RH on a Tuesday with no reservations whatsoever. I really do not question my masculinity at all, I just like variety.

I have gotten over my guilt completely. I felt guilty for a long time though. Now my friend just says to enjoy it, at least I have choices others don't.

What I like about the Bi experience is perhaps that there are never any strings attached, no negotiations, no cash, no nothing. Just a good ol fashioned good time.

I do have three " regulars " that I get together with and they know what the name of the game is. Nothing more than sex.

As another poster wrote, relax, don't label it and enjoy.