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69 Massage seems to be a relatively new venue.
™ว”€กยŒ€Šีย‡ƒหม ˆ gay massage chiangmai Sixtynine Club Local friend visited two days ago, pleasant and helpful manager, excellent and polite service all round from the young man he selected (not prepared to share his name).
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1100 bt/hr-thats even more as Senso!
CMai does have (related per capita) mmany more such shops as even BKK- but recently it seems there is a sprawl in hi-so super expenbsive places. Prices in CMai older such shops are lower as BKK- 4/500 for the msg and min. 5/600 for your masseur. F.e. Classic or Riverhouse
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The 1,100Baht fee is very obviously the fee to the house plus the minimum tip to the massage boy, not rocket science to work that out.
Many venues do this nowadays in Bkk, CM, and Pattaya. If you divided the total 50/50 then it's 550 for the house and 550 minimum tip for the massage man, quite standard numbers (assuming of course that the massage service is acceptable and there is probably some attempt at giving the customer a jerk off for a happy ending, or similar). Anything 'extra', at least in my awareness, the customer knows there is an expectation of an additional seperate tip. Further, my local CM friend who first mentioned his visit to this venue noticed the comment about 1,100 on this thread and just called me, and he confirmed the 1,100 is the fee to the house plus the minimum tip for the massage man. Not really the point here but he also mentioned he gave the young man a sizeable extra tip because the young man did give professional and complete massage and did give 'outstanding' extra service, was fun to be with, but was also quite serious about taking good care of his customer, was polite and turned off his mobile phone before the start. Also mentioned he's been back again and selected the same young man and again 'outstanding' service on all factors.
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I don't know every CM massage venue but I'm fairly sure there are no specific CM venues with a similar picture as HERO (which I am quite familiar with).
Many of the CM venues have a rapidly changing stock, and fairly often the total number is fairly low. A few months back River House had about two boys on the premises but could call whoever the customer selected from their photo book. I had previously had some quite nice adventures at River House so I did once agree to let the mamasan call the man I selected from a photo. First man, no answer, second boy, not convenient. The place I have been visiting mostly, with some good service is Victory, just to the side of the Lanna hotel. Manager speaks good English and tries hard to please. Full address can easily be found on the Ratchada Cafe gay guide to CM. They have quite a variety of boys, more after around 6.30pm and more on Fridays and Saturdays, some a little older, some are technical college boys (above age), always seems to be a fair sprinkling of news faces, but many never seen twice. But none (that I've seen) that really fit the HERO mould. His venue seems to have changed quite a bit. Their website is a mess, Total number of boys on duty less then half of photos on the website. Customer quotes a name from the website photos, repsonse 'finished work here a long time ago'. I've made a phone booking there twice in the last 12 months, both times the man never turned up. Manager made no attempt to make an apology, just left me sitting in their courtyard, had to ask again and again 'what's happening' with no real attempt to try to give any specific answer. Both times it was already 30 / 40 minutes after the agreed time and I asked the manager to call the boy(s) to check what time they would arrive. Manager saw no reason to call, and on the second occasion after I had asked twice for him to call the boy, the manager's response : 'boy doesn't have a mobile phone', and he just walked away. Haven't been back. Blue has also gone down hill, two local farang friends have recently made phone bookings from photos on their website, and on arrival both went through a nightmare of confusion, with : 1). Person who took the booking forgetting to tell the massage boy, and no record in their diary. Had to call the boy and ask him to come to work, '5 minutes, 5 minutes' turned out to be over 1.5 hours later (personally I would have aborted the whole thing much more quickly). 2). Mamasan who took the booking not on duty on day/time of appointment, mamasan on duty insisted that the young man booked no longer worked there but of course asked the farang to take a look at the line up of boys on the premises. Boy who had been booked by phone arrived whilst the line up was being organized but appeared to genuinely be unaware of any booking. In the massage room customer asked him if he had stopped / restarted work. Reply : 'No, I come here every day'.
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From my experiences CM venues are on the whole very unprofessional, and the boys keep coming and going. There is absolutely no quality control whatsoever. I have had many many disasters and a few good times. The latest disaster was at 2brothers. I chose one very cute gay guy, who performed a below-average massage and then refused anything extra whatsoever -- even refused to be touched, but just insisted and insisted that time is over and I should get out of the room immediately. Had to give the minimum tip for nothing, as per rules. This is a pity since I once upon a time had one masseur here who agreed to be fucked and was an expert at giving oral. As expected he is long gone with the rapid staff turnover.
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xfun and bago
Thanks for the info. I have only visited classic house but they have limited number of boys. For a good experience, there is a boy there who is very friendly (nickname sam) and he has been working there for 3 years. However, he is top. Would appreciate if you can tell me the name of the lanna hotel gay massage place. Then I can search in the internet for the full address.
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The name of the hotel I gave earlier (Lanna Hotel) is incorrect, it should be Lanna Palace hotel. The map on the Victory massage site is quite good except that the multi story skyscraper graphic shown on the map (under the word Victory) is nothing like the actual building which is an old row of shophouses, plus it's on a small narrow street, rather than a wide major road as shown on the map. Easy directions: imagine your walking out of the front door of the Lanna Palace hotel, immediately turn left, walk out of the hotel premises, your now on a small side road going down the side of the hotel. Look to the other side of that small side road and a little to the right side - Victory massage, all glass (frosted glass) frontage with a table and chairs outside, but open the door and walk inside. They have cold beer at quite reasonable price for such venues. Have fun!
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The reality is that everybody has good & bad experiences at all massage venues.
I too have had some good experiences over the years at Classic House, not far from Tar pae gate. The second last time there seemed to be a new manager who was not at all pleasant. The manager insisted on recommending one young man and insisted that the man could do and is very willing to do 'everything'. Visually he was just my type, so I agreed. The massage boy said quickly that the linen on the massage bed smelled to high heaven as did the towels, he was correct and I asked him to change them. He went downstairs, captain came upstairs quickly and demanded that everything was clean and had just been changed. he refused to change the bed or the towels. This encounter was quite nasty and I 'lost my apetite', and aborted the whole thing, gave the boy a tip and went downstiars and at the managers insistence paid the bill. Several boys were outside in the actual soi as I left and they all apologised. A few weeks later I went to River House, the Classic manager was now at River House (these two venues do have the same owner) and he was again quite rude, demanded strongly that I must select from photos (and the boys were all waiting outside the glass doors but were told not to come in, but customer can't see the boys features etc., because of reflections from the sun.) So I just stood up and left. An hour later I went to Classic, and took the young man previously recommended. Wrong move, no attempt whatever to give good massage, totally rejected any attempt at 'play'. I've never been back to Classic after that. Here's another indicent at 'His'. I had made a phone booking, arrived early and was waiting for the boy to arrive. Another farang also waiting, also a phone booking. Suddenly the captain came into the courtyard with a massage boy in tow and said to the other farang 'this is the boy you booked by phone'. Farang insisted that it wasn't the same boy but captain insisted it was. Farang used his smart phone to connect to their website and found the photo of the boy he had booked and proved, by focusing on several features on the photo that it wasn't the same boy. Captain now looking very sheepish. Farang said never mind and put some cash on the table for his beer. Captain inisted that he pay the house fee for the boy. Farang walked out.
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Xfun
I am sorry to hear of all the misfortunes that you encountered. I have never encountered such scenarios in Bangkok and my few times in Classic. In Bangkok, we get to choose the boys in a lineup or behind glass doors. Much better than stupid photos which may not be accurate. I will pay Victory massage a visit in february next year. From the pictures in their website, they have mostly twinks, not exactly what i wanted.
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Muscfair,
Well yes i've had some disappointments here in CM, but most of what I shared is from local friends. Right now CM is at the bottom of the roller coaster in terms of overall gay commercial activities, massage, go-go or whatever, no doubt the tide will turn. CM is expanding fast, it's quickly becoming a big city and it has a sizeable gay farang population, plus of course a local Thai customer base, plus Thai & farang tourists, so the customer base is positive, as said, no doubt the tide will turn. I lived / worked in Bkk for more than two decades and for many years my 'regular' was HERO club and I did have many many positive encounters. I now have work assignments, usually 7 to 10 days, several times every year in Bkk and I stay near HERO so it remains my main 'port of call' and most times quite good experiences.
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I have been frequenting CM massage venues for many many years and I can confidently say the whole thing has come down in quality and professionalism. Ten years ago they had an equal number of venues (though in between many have closed and many new ones opened and some had opened and closed). There used to be a time when you'd not be disappointed, when simple boys are more wiling to please. These days, the managers and also boys tell me the good-looking and high quality boys have all gone to Bangkok. Classic House, I think, is good for a massage. The boys are really trained as masseurs -- but they are virtually all straight and are not trained to "play." Quite a few I have tried actually had not the faintest idea how to "play" gay-style, though they were all polite. But then, one need not pay so much for a good massage, right? The worst experience (becoming more and more frequent in CM) is when you pay such an amount and get neither a massage nor sex. As such, I have decided to leave the massage trail of CM .....bye bye!! Will seek sex in saunas instead, for free and from willing men. And a proper massage can be had in cheap straight venues.
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I went to 69 Massage, Chiang Mai, late this afternoon, first visit.
Many young men already arrived, perhaps 20, many not shown on their website although the katoey captain (very limited English, but not a problem I speak pretty good Thai) did mention that every boy shown on the website was there. I guess none of the boys would be over 25 yrs old, and none looked underage. As I arrived and walked through the garden and up the steps (nice old very big Thai house recently very well renovated) a lot of the boys were around the front of the building, all politely said good afternoon, all were well groomed (to look 'boy next door' style) nice casual clothes (not current top fashion) all obviously well laundered and freshly ironed, no punk, or jelled up, or Korean hair styles etc. No lady boys. My guess is that 90% / maybe 100% are Tai Yai boys. The katoey captain (polite, not loud or over the top) did politely mention before the line up happened that there are no bottoms on staff and she made sure I heard what she said. The captain asked whether I would like to select from the photos or prefer to see a full real line up. I had already flipped through the photo album and realized that half of the boys moving around were not In the photo album, regardless, it's always my preference to see a full real line up. The line up was quickly organized, no yelling, and I selected a 19 yr old macho cheeky cutie (a professional photographer would have a field day with his beautiful, handsome, macho, cute smiley face, well that's my opinion anyway). We showered together, nicely defined body, bubble butt, big cock, no tattoos, beautiful skin, great smile, masculine but very gentle, very polite, no English whatever. Excellent massage, obviously trained, and he was very willing to try to give extra service (but no bottom), he explained that he knew he had to try and was willing to do so (but not bottom) and he has clearly already perfected the art of passionate kissing. Boy also explained that mamasan tells prospective workers that they must give some sex service to customers or cannot work here. And he did get hard and came buckets with some great moans. My guess is that he's a typical 19 yr old boy who is very randy and gets turned on when someone touches / sucks his cock, man or woman. I checked with the massage boy about the fee structure: 1,100Baht total paid direct to the mamasan = 500 for the house, & the massage boy gets 600 immediately after the mamsan has got confirmation that customer is satisfied and customer has left the premises. As normal, an additional tip expected for 'extra' service. The working boys cannot go home after they have had a customer, all must stay until closing time 23 - 24:00. They get penalized (tip reduction) if they don't show up for work at all or show up later than 5:00pm, unless already agreed with the captain because of other work. Seems there is a roster so that some boys are on site at 3:00pm when the venue opens, After the massage the owner (I believe it was the owner from the way he spoke) appeared, perhaps late 20s, Thai, nice looking, str8 acting but I guess he would not be str8, well groomed, nicely dressed, same as working boys, and pleasantly asked (good English) if I was satisfied with the service and asked if I had any suggestions for improvement. And he listened. He apologized that they had no beer and said he was waiting for a licence, probably within one month. Mentioned that business is still slow but increasing every day, also mentioned he understands that fully satisfied customers and positive referrals, and no bullshit, are the main factor in success Seems like the owner has done his homework and is trying to run the place on a structured strategy, I hope he succeeds. When I left the total staff numbers had increased to perhaps 30 boys, including 3 or 4 who would definitely fit the HERO mould, but no full musclemen. Overall, a very pleasant & satifying visit. Can I suggest, worth a try.
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